Tulsa police: Multiple people shot at medical building

You do not understand what you are looking at. smh...

 

It dropped as much before their NFA as after.

It’s not hard to swallow. Irrelevant information is never hard to swallow. What is probably hard to swallow is many states are doing away with concealed carry restrictions etc. even though you all are moaning incessantly about needing more control. I can understand your frustration.

 

I;m eyeballing 70% of the weapons used by Mexican cartels are American made. So I debunked your idea of:
"The cartels get their weapons the same place they get their RPG's and grenades, and wherever that is, it's not America."

It flat out is America who makes money by arming cartels.
It's your initial point it aint the US. You're free to prove your point.

 

Yes, but, they don't seem to be even trying to reach to the middle. They seem to be working frantically to gin up their base.

I don't think that one can overweight just how devastating out of control gas prices are for the political Left.

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No, 70% of the Firearms "seized by the ATF", which is far different than 70% of the cartel's firearms.

 

Great meme. Right on point.

I agree. Biden's progressive my way or the highway puppeteers have no self-awareness and that is reflected in his poll numbers.

 

America stalled. Australia kept on going down and down and down.
Australia added a buy back program in 2003. And behold the dip in 2004.

Irrelevant information? The US has one carnage after the other, unlike other western nations.
What sticks out are American lousy gun laws vs superior foreign gun laws that show success.
Please motivate your opinion why this is lousy information.

 

Bad news!!!! I will not be 'shutting my cage' one bit.

Tell me. You have a choice. You are God for a millisecond. Choose.

1. The life of your child, or

2. The Second Amendment.

You can only have one or the other.

 

lol

 

So your argument is that the 1996 NFA in Australia caused firearm deaths to decrease in both Australia and the US prior to and after implementation. But then the US stopped being influenced by the Australian NFA around the year 2000.

And now the increasing firearm proliferation and violence in Australia with their laws is irrelevant?

Does that about sum it up?

It’s irrelevant and not all true. By US definition of mass shootings Australia has had eight mass shootings since 1996 passage of NFA. You have been told there have been none or one. Do some research.

 

https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/b/Bath_School_disaster.htm

The following mass murderer also found another way to mass kill. He killed his wife, his animals, young school children, adults and himself.

Guns laws didn’t mean anything to another mass murder Andrew Kehoe.

Bath School disaster

The Bath School disaster was a series of bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, USA, on May 18, 1927, which killed 45 people and injured 58. Most of the victims were children in second to sixth grades attending the Bath Consolidated School. The bombings constituted the deadliest act of mass murder in a school in U.S. history, claiming more than three times as many victims as the Columbine High School massacre.

All the Kehoe farm buildings were destroyed, and the animals trapped inside the barn had perished. Ironically, the amount of unused equipment and materials on the farm could have easily paid off the Kehoes' mortgage. Investigators found a wooden sign wired to the farm's fence with Kehoe's last message, "CRIMINALS ARE MADE, NOT BORN," written on it.

The article provides a list of names and ages of those who died.

 

This guy appears to have been just fine until he had back surgery which left him in insufferable pain for which he believe the doctor was not concerned to do anything about it. He acted upon that. Is that mental illness or mentally disturbed. I would say the later. At most temporary insanity. Had it gone to trial I don't think he could have claimed immune from prosecution for mental illness.

 

You keep saying that like we're going to believe that you would accept a point counter to your position.

 

And the violent crime rates in those countries skyrocketed after those gun laws were put in place.

 

Still moronic.

 

And no-one has ever come up with a link when i have challenged them on an issue like this. How about you try, ey?

 

I don't think anyone is talking about taking away every Americans' gun; the talk is more about a certain type of gun which is typically considered a military rifle, and which was banned in the past, without incident.

Actually, most in Congress who are trying to get something done in this area, are not even talking about banning assault rifles; their modest goals include more funding for mental health, expanding background checks, Red Flag laws (temporarily taking guns away from someone who has threatened to harm themselves or others), regulations requiring safe storage of firearms, and raising the age for buying military style assault rifles-- not really a hunting gun-- from 18 to 21. Perhaps, President Biden might do something about truly high capacity artillery magazines (starting at, I would guess, 40 or 50 rounds). Hard to see why anyone would have a reasonable problem with any of these things.

 

This is clearly nothing more than an assumption, on your part. How do I know? Because "they" have never been given, and refused, the offer that you say you would be willing to make, if you didn't already know that it would be rejected. Hence, your argument IS "just a slippery slope argument." While there are some who may feel as you suspect, they are certainly in the minority; most of those who speak of "common sense gun laws," truly are after, only that.

 

How much gun control is enough?

 

Common sense gun laws from people who don't know the first thing about guns?

No thank you.

 

In truth, there are many gun owners, who are in favor of things like background checks, Red Flag laws, and not allowing 18 year olds to buy semi automatic assault rifles.

 

Fudds. Everyone of them.

If 18 year olds can't be trusted with an AR, then they should not be trusted to vote or join the military.

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah…”cold dead hands”…blah, blah, blah…

Can the faux heroics….your gun problem won’t be resolved through some Alamo-like siege…

It’ll happen as a result of the calm political process of you folk throwing out that ridiculous 200 year old amendment….

 

Or buy a beer………..oh wait…..

 

Well no Ive presented it multiple times here and the answer is always the same. No.

Here let me show you.

If we agree to ALL of your requests for “reasonable gun control”…. We agree to all of this:

“their modest goals include more funding for mental health, expanding background checks, Red Flag laws (temporarily taking guns away from someone who has threatened to harm themselves or others), regulations requiring safe storage of firearms, and raising the age for buying military style assault rifles-- not really a hunting gun-- from 18 to 21. Perhaps, President Biden might do something about truly high capacity artillery magazines (starting at, I would guess, 40 or 50 rounds).”

AND I’ll even say you can add to your list to make sure we have ALL of your “common sense gun regulation” you think we should have.

And we will agree to it ALL.

But in return we want a constitutional amendment guaranteeing no further gun regulation (including ammo, parts etc etc) after these common sense gun regulations you request are enacted.

Deal?