Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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Feb 14, 2022 — Russia insists that there was an agreement not to expand Nato eastwards after the end of the USSR. History begs to differ.

 

At this time I think placing troops on that island is stupid for both sides. Ukraine can easily reach the island from land with artillery and Russians can burn everything on that island from sea.
I’ve heard that Ukrainians damaged that floating crane that was trying to retrieve those boats that Ukrainians sank. Russians can’t do anything with this island unless they attempt to go after Odessa, which is not likely. That’s probably why it’s been quiet on that island for now. Once Ukraine gets Harpoons they’ll burn that island again and will sink warships that will attempt approach and that will be the end of Russian presence there. I think Ukrainians have about 1 more month of training with harpoons, so we are going to have to wait and see.

 

Some head of States, said that the war will be over in a month. Here is a video of some Ukrainians out on patrol near the Azot Chemical Plant. Hopefully they were nationalists (Nazis) and got their just rewards rather than conscripts.

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It's a strategic position on the chessboard, I suppose, to either side. It would aid the Russians in an assault on southern Ukraine and helps them maintain the naval blockade, while it could help Ukraine to keep Russia's rust-bucket fleet away from shore.

Here's hoping you're right about the Harpoons. There is no telling what the orcs are planning and doing to prepare for that. It's no secret what Ukraine is receiving.

 

I won’t know what the what the outcome of this war will bring but it might have some effect on us all. What that is remains to be seen. IF Putin were to take over Ukraine the way the Taliban took over Afghanistan. Putin will give orders at will and whoever is there will be expected to obey them or face severe consequences. Then the rest of the world will distance themselves from Putin which could happen. I’m sure the Ukrainian forces will do their best at defending their country and defend it with honor. Ukraine is looking to put Putin in his place and put him there for good. That’s all I’m going to say for this time.

 

It's the author of the article that begs to differ. There are documents proving differently, and as Dr. Paul Craig Roberts who was an economic advisor to Pres. Reagan said: Bill Clinton and George W. Bush blackened the name of Reagan's Sec. of State James Baker who had given Gorbachev his personal assurances - as did many other Europeans.

But then again virtues such as 'honor' and keeping one's word, seems to have no place in a world devoid of all moral boundaries and where the criminal and the ignoble are exalted. So much for the Great Reset and New World Order.




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Looks like Ukrainian forces are 20km away from Kherson and closing in.

 

How about the latest:

There's a saying that one should never provoke the Bear. Well some countries did. The Russian Duma decided to throw a diplomatic nuclear bomb, and submitted a draft law lifting the recognition and independence of Lithuania. The other 2 Baltic nations will probably follow. Lithuania will now be referred to as the Territory of the Former Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic. This also puts into question its membership in Nato, since according to Soviet and Russian law, Lithuania never existed as a nation.

Russia is responding with a real "nuclear weapon" in the diplomatic field to the anti-Russian hysteria of the Baltic States of their refusal to accept and understand the defence of the rights of the Russian-speaking people of Ukraine, but above all to the expansion of NATO to Finland and Sweden: It removes the recognition of the three Baltic states as independent republics!

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The bill states that the law was violated "On the process of resolving issues related to the secession of a unifying republic from the USSR", as Lithuania did not hold a referendum on secession from the USSR and no transitional period was set to address all the contentious issues.

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By adopting the bill, Russia will no longer recognize Lithuania's independence. It will not recognize its passports and borders. ​

 

This is a funny argument coming from someone who imagines that missiles hundreds of miles away from Moscow would pose an insurmountable challenge to Vlad the Invader's Novorossiyan Empire.

 

All of which means it will do ....... absolutely nothing.

 

I'm telling you that Paul Carig Roberts is a blatant antisemtie and holocaust denier and I'm pointing out that you have a history of citing work by antisemites or associating with antisemites in your defence of Putin.

A person not obsessed with defending Putin might stop to ask themselves why so many antisemites, holocaust deniers, racists & other far right wing types support him. They might also ask why you don't seem to have a problem with this (unless they have already worked out the answer to that question).

Why do you keep referencing antisemites Jenny? Why do you keep associating yourself with them? Why do antisemites seem to like Putin so much? I know you are going to avoid my questions, but it is still worth asking.

 

Russians do love them some dumb displays of imperialism. They also seem addicted to the idea that any nation that borders Russia requires Russian permission ot exist or act independently. This pretty much proves why NATO is necessary.

Russian agreement is not required for those nations to exist and their status in NATO is unchanged, but thanks for the laugh. You really will believe anything out of Russia, won't you.

 

Lithuania could be next. It has short coast line. Russian Kaliningrad is bordering on the west and Belarus is bordering from south and southeast. If Russia starts to legally recognize Lithuania as its own sovereign territory then it can easily send mercenaries there to repeat Donbas scenario. They could try this to test NATO’s reaction to the hybrid attack on its member - with mercenaries it doesn’t look like an official attack, yet you have to deal with them while Russia cries bloody murder about suppression of Russian speakers.

 

Firstly they'd actually have to have the necessary military forces available and deployed in readiness. They don't. The Russian army currently has its dick stuck in the meat grinder that is Ukraine. This one war alone has crippled its offensive capabilities for years to come. That's how long it will take Russia to rebuild. Secondly preparations for such an attack would be detected, especially since NATO is on high alert at the moment and this scenario has been gamed out many times by all the potential participants.

But even without the involvement of other NATO countries Latvia and Estonia would be 'all in' two minutes after the first shots were fired. Combined all three can raise 45000 troops before calling up their reservists! Not to mention Poland who would also be 'all in' after about as long as it takes to make one phone call to Warsaw from Vilnius. So where is Russia going to find the 50-100,000 troops it would need for such an offensive operations against all the Baltic States alone, right now? Russia hasn't even managed to conquer all of the Dombas after months of trying. The thing is even if NATO didn't exist the populations of every former Eastern Block nation in Europe (with the possible exception of outliers like Serbia) detests the very idea of Russian domination to their very core. They'd all fight such a move because they know Putin and they all realize they're on his 'list'. So the reality? The Russian army currently couldn't occupy a bus stop in Eastern Europe without getting kicked out.

 

The war will only be over when Ruzzia is no longer capable of waging war.

 

Your team azov are white Holocaust deniers.

Honestly. The buffoonery here..

 

Bingo

 

"Azov" does not mean that at all.

 

It is indeed a verifiable pattern.

 

Nope, some members of the Azov Regiment are Jews. But in Comrade Pooteen's sick brain, they're Nazis.
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Very interesting. The document signed in 1997 and already in 1999 NATO violates it by bombing of Yugoslavia.

 

Ukraine's vital ally - Why Poland matters in the Russian-Ukrainian war


Let's all just take a moment to thank Poland!

 

there are no Jews in azoz battalion and they are an all Nazi unit.

You must be the last person on earth to not have known this lol

 

If they try that they will run straight into not only highly motivated Lithuanians on home soil, but likely Germans, Poles and even Americans. Plus there will be NATO air cover, Electronic Warfare & anything else NATO can throw in.

Alliance members know this would be a 'make or break' moment. Within a couple of months there would be contingents from everywhere blockading Kaliningrad & making sure the border with Belarus & Russia is sealed tight.

Perhaps worst of all for Russia, if it is in direct conflict with NATO the gloves would likely come off in Ukraine. NATO air power & possibly land forces would get involved. There might even be a NATO naval taskforce breaking the Russian blockade on Ukraine.

Putin likes the occasional bit of brinksmanship, but this would be absurdly risky. He may still be able to get something out of the disaster in Ukraine. Start messing wiht NATO directly and that is less likely.