Why Black people are afraid of ‘crazy’ White people

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  1. Lil Mike

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    MSNBC Talking head, one of the most privileged people in the country, ready to flee

    Why Black people are afraid of ‘crazy’ White people

    I’m going to let you in on a little secret: Black people are not afraid of White people. We’re afraid of “crazy” White people.

    Let me try to explain. Things felt so dicey during the Trump years, I half-joked that my husband and I might have to reenact that scene from “The Sound of Music” and flee the country. Now, an alarming new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center shows that my “Operation von Trapp” might need to go live. The ranks of “crazy” White people appear to be growing — and the rest of us don’t know what to do about it.



    Although Operation von Trapp sounds like a bit of cultural appropriation, I find it crazy that how one of the most privileged people in the country now feels like a Jew living in the Warsaw Ghetto. Anyway it's a great example of utter delusion.
     
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    White nationalist hate groups in the US have increased 55% throughout the Trump era, according to a new report by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), and a “surging” racist movement continues to be driven by “a deep fear of demographic change”. Delusional?
     
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    Black violence has also increased. I guarantee BLM riots caused more damage during Trump than so called white supremacists
     
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    Yeah it’s completely idiotic but I have come to expect that to the point it no longer surprises me. Look at the first reply in your thread as an example. Acting as if a rise in white supremacy is an actual issue. BLM riots caused 2 billion dollars in damage and they think there won’t be an adverse effect to lighting streets on fire, twerking on ambulances, blocking freeways, and acting complete trash of society? Of course there is going to be rise but they still have not even come close to matching any sort of damage cost caused by BLM.
     
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    Housing Skin Heads, Nazi and Arian Nation dicks in American Prisons costs billions each year.
     
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    Housing blacks in American prisons also costs money as well. Seriously… you thought that was an argument?
     
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    Well I don't believe in the Southern Grifter Law Center's methodology so that report means nothing.
     
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    The rise of white supremacy is a non-issue for you (I don't wonder why). But old white men still get hysterical about BLM "twerking on ambulances" "and acting complete trash of society". 93% of the protests were peaceful 2 years ago. Opportunistic looters did take advantage of the lack of police presence. In my city the looting was in downtown shops blocks away from the BLM protests. Antifas, angry white boys, set some trash fires and threw rocks at police, have now receded into the woodwork.

    Yes some property damage, but it is less important than the number of people killed by crazy white people, don't you think?
     
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    That 90% of peaceful protestors did nothing to stop the estimated 2 billion dollars in damages. They may have been peaceful but they definitely were okay with the side that wasn’t. You can assume all you want about my reasonings I have a right to call out the BS no matter what color it comes from. You show me white supremacists twerking on ambulances, and burning down buildings, looting, to the estimated cost of 2 billion and maybe I might agree with you. But to claim they are a larger problem is moronic because the numbers don’t even come close.
     
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    Black people are 50 times more likely to be killed by another black person, rather than a white person.

    The best advice you could give a black person regarding their safety is to tell them to move to a white neighborhood.

    Any black person who think it's white people who pose a threat to them is delusional to a factor of about 50.

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    That’s because black people are 50 X more likely to be violent.
     
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    Statistically speaking, white supremacist violence is a non-issue for everyone.

    The number of people(people of any color) that have been killed by actual white supremacists over the course of the last 40 years in all of America is smaller than the number of black people who will be killed by other black people in just Chicago, in just this year alone.

    Any black person who sees white supremacists as a significant threat to their life and limb is operating under a foolish ignorance of reality, and with a ridiculously-flawed methodology of threat assessment.
     
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    Hmmm....WaPo Opinion piece.

    I am not going to pay to read WaPo, but I see lot of 'whataboutism' in the responses here. Being afraid of crazy people is natural and healthy.
     
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    Seems a bit politically incorrect.

    Stigmatizing the mentally ill as dangerous seems like something that'd get you cancelled in certain progressive circles.
     
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    If you think its about mental illness, then clearly you don't know what "crazy" means in this context.
     
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    In what context is "crazy" different than "mentally ill"?

    Oh, and the ex-mayor of New York city's wife spent about a billion taxpayer dollars on the notion that the problem wasn't a matter of violent crazy people running wild in the city. The real problem was the "stigma" of the mentally ill being stigmatized as violent.

    Smashing the stigma: Deputy Mayor Richard Buery on ...
    https://www.cityandstateny.com › personality › 2017/09

    Sep 7, 2017 — In November 2015, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio's office launched a plan to treat mental health issues across the city called ThriveNYC ...

    It had all the success you'd expect out of an expensive progressive pipe dream program.

    ThriveNYC is an even bigger failure than it seems - New York ...
    https://nypost.com › 2019/09/18 › thrivenyc-is-an-even...

    Sep 18, 2019 — The annual performance review revealed that ThriveNYC fell way short on many of its goals last year despite a $225 million budget.
     
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    You don't have an issue with white supremacists because they are killing Hispanics, Jews and Blacks, but if they did "2 billion" in property damage and "twerked on ambulances" you would. I see.
     
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    That's actually not true though.

    If you take a close look at actual "white supremacist" murders, it mostly involves Aryan Brotherhood-type prison gangs, and they mostly kill other white people in prison beefs, and during drug deals, and other sorts of criminal activity.

    The number of white supremacists who actually commit racially-motivated hate crime murders is vanishingly small.

    Like I said, more blacks will die at the hands of other blacks this year in just Chicago than all the people of any race that have been killed by white supremacists over the last 40 years in all of America.
     
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    They kill less blacks than blacks kill blacks… again, less of a problem.

    In 2020 right wing extremists white supremacy groups killed a known 23

    In 2021 right wing extremists white supremacy groups killed a known 29

    any guess on how many blacks committed murder those years? Or would you like me to answer it?

    white supremacy groups have no place in society for their violence but if that same logic is directed toward the most violent demographic in America they too have no place in in society for their violence.
     
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    In this context, and many other contexts. Even funny can be called crazy. Did you really think this discussion is about mental illness?
     
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    Of course not.

    This discussion is about the false narrative that white supremacists pose a significant threat to blacks.

    When you look at the numbers and put it in context, it's a narrative so false, it's crazy.
     
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    Even the Anti Defamation League admits that the majority of murders committed by white supremacists aren't racist hate crimes-
    86 actual hate crime murders committed by white supremacists in the last decade in all of the US.

    That's like 9 victims per year. 9 murder victims? In Chicago, they call that "Tuesday night".

    A black person saying they're scared of being murdered by white supremacists, while they ignore the black street crime stats-

    It's like a person getting mauled by a pack of grizzly bears while they scream and complain about how terrified they are of squirrels.
     
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    Let me ask our friends on the left an honest question..... Do you think a black person has more to fear walking in a white neighborhood in America or does a white person have more to fear walking in a black neighborhood in America?

    Please try to answer honestly.
     
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    Homeland Security says white supremacist groups are the top domestic terrorist threat, but to you they are not an "actual issue". Of course you are not a target so you don't care. A white supremacist targeting a specific minority spreads terror throughout that minority, that is why they are afraid of crazy white people. Right-wingers are known for lacking empathy for their outgroups.
    Attempting to change the subject with whataboutisms is off topic.
    Okay, I live in a predominantly Black middle class neighborhood. No problem. I jog through some distressed all black neighborhoods. At one time I ran by a trap house with guys outside to watch for customers or police. Once they got used to me going by, they waved. It has since gone out of business. A Black friend saw me running through one of these neighborhoods and asked was I running because I was afraid, as a joke. I told her a good rule of thumb is bad people sleep in and I run in the morning.
    We have depressed all white small towns in my state that blacks are afraid to go to.
     
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    Apparently HLS runs on emotions because the numbers point to larger problems elsewhere. It has nothing to with whataboutisms, I am comparing numbers of the so called problem and they don’t add up to their claim.
     
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