Why Black people are afraid of ‘crazy’ White people

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Homeland Security says white supremacists are a top threat because that's the political narrative that the current administration is pushing. The plain reality, however, is that white supremacists are a bigger threat to white people than they are to minorities, and that's a reality that's absolutely supported by the facts. White supremacists kill more white people than they do minorities, and the number of people of all races that white supremacists kill is miniscule when compared to other forms of violence, such as the extreme and ubiquitous violence of black street gangs.

    White supremacist violence is an issue, it's just a very small issue when compared to much larger issues that plague minority communities in the US.
    And again, white supremacists target white people more often than they do minorities. That's just plain reality.

    Blacks are known for lacking empathy for their own ingroups. The crime and murder stats absolutely back up that sad reality.
    It's amazing to me that you devote your time and effort to pushing the false narrative that white supremacists pose a significant risk to black communities in the US, while at the same time you casually run by a true and immediate threat to your own black community, and you casually wave greetings to the drug dealers that are destroying your own neighborhood, and your own neighbors.

    That right there is some amazing "whataboutisms". Black drug dealers are poisoning your people, and devastating your neighborhoods, and there you are yelling "Butwhatabout crazy white people?!" for some ridiculous reason.

    You have met the enemy in your community, it wasn't whitey, and you waved a polite greetings to them.

    Truly amazing.
     
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  2. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    HLS runs on emotions? No, rather you run on biases. You are trying to compare different types of homicides. It is like I said accidental child deaths by guns are minimal compared to the accidental child deaths by drowning. That ignores the accidental children gun deaths that needs to be looked at. Two different types of accident, both need to addressed, but the subject was gun deaths with a different cause and different social affects.
    Okay, right-wing spin-meister.

    HLS came out with that opinion during the Trump administration.

    I was unaware white supremacists are committing racially motivated killings of whites...sounds counterintuitive. Whites should be afraid of white supremacists because they are white?

    And then the faux outrage and indignation about me just passing by a trap house. What would you do pull a Karen? "Hello police, there are two scruffy black guys sitting on a porch every time I pass by it." What is your complaint ma'am? "I'm sure they're selling drugs." Do you have any evidence? "No, they just look the type." We'll be right on it ma'am. Neighborhood saved!
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Even under Trump, they were pushing the false narrative that white supremacists pose a significant threat, and they're pushing it even harder under Biden.

    I never made such a claim. That's a nonsense strawman argument that you just made up. I presented the ADL's own findings that the majority of murders committed by white supremacists are NOT motivated by "ideology" (read: racism), and the majority of the victims killed by white supremacists are NOT minorities.

    No, whites shouldn't be afraid of white supremacists, because, statistically speaking, they pose very little threat. Blacks should be even less afraid of white supremacists, because they pose even less of a threat to blacks than they do whites. That's a reality that's supported by the facts.

    I wouldn't tolerate drug dealers in my neighborhood, and neither would my neighbors.

    Drug dealers in black neighborhoods pose an astronomically-higher threat to black communities than white supremacists do, and yet you'll tolerate their presence while you're busily complaining about the mythical whitey boogeyman that's out to get you.
     
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  4. Joe knows

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    Lol. I’m trying to compare different types of homicides? If you are going to sit here and dismiss hundreds of black on black murders and argue that blacks are more fearful of the crazy white supremacy groups who committed a known number of 29 murders then your conclusions are not supported at all.

    you said the BLM protesters were 90% peaceful although they cause estimated damages of 2 billion dollars. You are arguing BLM is a good cause and to ignore that ten percent.

    Then on the other hand you’re arguing that white supremacists are the problem while only causing less than 1 percent of black murders. You realize how this makes you look right? It also make DHS look as if they’re ran by politicians rather than facts.
     
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    You both seem to be having trouble comprehending the fact that minorities view the rise in white supremacy with anxiety because members have been known to kill innocent minorities because they are minorities. You dismiss that opinion as invalid and then bring up separate topics that cause you anxiety. While those subjects may be important they are not the subject of the OP. Empathy is the ability to share someone else's feelings or experiences by imagining what it would be like to be in that person's situation and conservatives are famously lacking in that, therefore their comprehension is impaired.
     
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    Empathy….. really? For the most violent demographic in America? Are you kidding me? We’re not talking individuals here we are talking “black people” like the OP has stated.

    the demographic he is saying is afraid is responsible for the most murders, and 2 billion dollars in damages during riots in their name. Where is their empathy? You can’t be for real.
     
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    Thank you for proving my point.
     
  8. Joe knows

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    That you have no numbers to counter the fact?
     
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    All of us should be very concerned and wary of hate-groups, no matter what color, religion, ethnic background, or anything else. People who HATE others of any kind for no good reason whatsoever are dangerous, unstable, and unpredictable!
     
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    "A bulletin was circulated by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, part of the Department of Defense... detail(s) several posts widely circulated in white supremacist online forums calling for attacks on events related to the June 19 federal holiday, which celebrates the end of slavery."
    Silly African Americans thinking crazy white people are a threat.
     
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    Trump is crazy and Pelosi is mentally ill and Joe Biden is stupid
     
  12. Creasy Tvedt

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    How many black people were killed by white supremacists and "crazy white people" this past weekend?

    How high was the body count across the country?

    Higher than this?

    At least 48 shot, 4 fatally in weekend violence across Chicago
    https://wgntv.com › news › chicagocrime › at-least-48-s...

    1 day ago — CHICAGO — Chicago police are searching for the gunmen who injured an 11-year-old girl in the Auburn-Gresham neighborhood and another who ...

    What's more dangerous? Bulletins about white supremacists making threats on the internet, or blacks shooting bullets in the real world?
     
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  13. drluggit

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    There are lots of us who feel the SPLC is a domestic terror organization. Why should the world give a hoot about what the SPLC says these days?
     
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    I'm afraid to ask what you would do instead.....
     
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    Naw... I think it was the BILLIONS of dollars in real damages to underserved neighborhoods that those rioting looting insurrectionists committed on the nation. Or did you forget that part? Smash and grab San Fransisco? No words? Your willingness to try to deflect from the crazy that was the summer of your hateful discontent cannot be whitewashed with the moniker of white supremacy. Sorry. Your bigotry and active use of racist language undercuts your credibility here...
     
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    Can't really spell it out any better then this graph called reality.
     
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    The demonstrable falseness of your posting is really disturbing. Start adding citations to your posts. Your opinion alone has no validity, and frankly, it's a dangerous kind of messaging given the hate it fuels absent actual fact or proof of it.
     
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    A masked, umbrella-wielding man accused of helping incite riots and looting in the aftermath of George Floyd's police-involved death has been identified as a member of a white supremacist group that aimed to stir racial tensions amid largely peaceful Black Lives Matter protests, according to police.

    The 32-year-old, dubbed "Umbrella Man," was captured in a viral video back in May wearing a black hooded outfit and a black gas mask as he smashed store windows with a sledgehammer and encouraged people to steal, according to a search warrant affidavit filed in court this week.

    His actions quickly led to the first of several arson fires that police say transformed peaceful protests into local danger zones, the affidavit said. He's also accused of spray painting the words "free s--- for everyone zone" on the doors of an AutoZone before he allegedly smashed in the windows. The store was broken into and set on fire shortly after, the affidavit said.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-helped-ignite-george-floyd-riots-identified-white/story?id=72051536
     
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    This makes white supremacists as responsible for the riots as much as it makes BLM responsible for the Jan 6th riots for the black BLM organizer who was arrested for his involvement in it.
     
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    Now do black street gangs.
     
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    Covered in #30
    A "domestic terror organization"? Interesting, what is the logic behind that? I can understand right-wingers disliking SPLC for exposing rightwing (and left-wing) hate organizations because they sympathize with them or they would not have a problem with them being called out.
    So, the answer is property damage is more important than dead minorities. Got it.
     
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    To which Black BLM organizer are you referring?
     
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    You didn't answer my simple question.

    How many minorities fell victim to actual white supremacist violence this past weekend?

    How many dead minorities were there?
     
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    Are you unaware that crazy white supremacists have targeted Jews, Blacks and Hispanics. Who is in charge of the remote at the facility?
     

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