Abstinence trends on Twitter in wake of Roe v. Wade ruling (nypost.com)

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So strawmen are your weapon if choice. Ok

    Not playing this game with you.
     
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    Well, we do that already.

    That doesn't mean we're free from the consequences of those decisions.

    We can drink, but if we drink to excess, we suffer the consequences. We can have children, but we must care and provide from them.

    What they want is freedom from consequences, not bodily autonomy.
     
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  3. Polydectes

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    I was pointing out the courts letting the states deal with it does not ban it.
     
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    If less people fool around, that's actually a VERY good thing. Hook-Up culture is extremely damaging to women and guys, mentally, and in some cases physically when it comes to rape.
     
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  5. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    If you don't let us behave irrationally and irresponsibly and then deal with are consequences then maybe we'll just act responsibly and show you.

    It's like reverse psychology.

    I wonder if that would work with the teenager I want you to go home this instant do not touch your homework and I want you to play video games for at least 3 hours watch TV for at least 2 hours and devour at least 4000 calories in sugar.

    Would it work?
     
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    It does in some areas though, states are talking about taking those bans as far as to limiting rape — I know it is an extremely rare example but it does happen, if a 14 year old is raped should she be forced to carry that fetus to term? Should any person?
     
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    Having 1 teenager and another on the way, I don't think I'll be telling them, please, have as much sex as possible with as many people as possible, and be sure not to use protection, because I want you to learn that lesson=) I hope they will have common sense and only have responsible sex with people they know and trust and having some sort of actual relationship with. But if not, be ****ING careful and cover your butts.
     
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    What states are banning it?
     
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    Best of luck I spent about five years caring for a teenager wasn't a parent but took on some of those responsibilities. It's an emotional rollercoaster.
     
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    Oh...it already is. The girl is nuts sometimes=)
     
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    1) On the contrary, our brains are wired to 'conform and behave'. It's the strongest instinct in the social mammal. Deviation from that is what causes many of the problems in an individual's life. You're absolutely right we can't have it both ways. If we expect to be able to 'experiment', we have to accept that we're equally likely to cause harm, as benefit. Being responsible means knowing the difference before you do it.

    2) Unbridled shagging doesn't aid survival unless you're on newly terraformed planet and seeding humans.
     
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    1% of the time? What are you saying?

    Do YOU know what abstain means? It means to decline sex on an ocassion it may be too much of a risk. It's a personal choice, about a single instance of sex.
     
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    What does it have to do with the world? This is a private and personal set of behaviours. More importantly, the majority of women never have a genuinely unwanted pregnancy, so clearly it's very common.

    Perhaps it's your world which is the problem.
     
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    I cared for a boy they say they're easier if they are I do not envy you right now.
     
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    The boy is right behind her, and he has his own challenges.
     
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    LOL! Many sources. Research it.
     
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    I jumped in to this person's life when he was 13 so right at that rough period. It seemed to get better from there. Is love to start at the beginning.
     
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    Another male who thinks he can tell women what to do with their own bodies.

    The most effective contraceptives are intrauterine devices and subdermal implants. Invasive surgery, and even these have glitches. Even if all women used intrauterine devices or subdermal implants, a failure rate under 1% still means hundreds of thousands of unwanted pregnancies each year.

    You know when will abortions stop? When wombs will be removed from female bodies at birth. It's the only 100% safe contraceptive method. Good luck with that.
     
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    Abortion is a consequence, so women are not free from consequences. It's not fun.

    Side effects from contraceptives are also consequences, by the way.

    How are you planning to make fathers suffer the consequences of unwanted pregnancies in a no-abortions scenario? You know, those who run away at the first hint of pregnancy, and the woman who becomes a single parent has neither the time, nor the financial resources, to bring him to justice.
     
  22. Pisa

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    May I remind you how this conundrum kicked off. My post:
    Your reply:
    In your opinion, consensual sex is the same as bank robbery. You're basically saying that either consensual sex is not really consensual at all, or that bank robberies are consensual. You're also basically saying that consensual sex is illegal.
     
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    Might be a good time to invest in the Rubber and Plastics industry if Women are going to cut us off, no biggy though since most Woke Liberal women are Butt Ugly and nobody in their right mind would want to have sex with them. Never let a good crisis go to waste
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    It's not "their own" bodies that concern men (and women) who are pro-life, it's the body of the unborn child.
     
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    The post I replied to was about contraceptive methods, which have everything to do with women's own bodies.

    Regardless, the fetus is an integral part of the woman's body, so yeah, it's all about women's own bodies. Until men will be able, and willing, to carry pregnancies to term in their own bodies, that is.

    Interesting that the anti-abortion crowd call themselves pro-life, but couldn't care less about the lives of existing women. Want more babies to turn them into miserable women forced to bring even more babies that would turn into miserable women forced to...you get it, me thinks.
     

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