Secret Service agents willing to testify that Trump didn't lunge at steering wheel

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  1. The Ant

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    This is all well and good (and a little fun), but have you seen a SINGLE denial of Cassidy's testimony about T**** being told there were armed people in the crowd and tubby wanting to take down the mags??

    Me neither..... that's the bigger story, folks!

    BeastGate will go away very soon.... I'm hoping the Cheney strategy of having Cassidy recount that story was simply to have MAGAworld focusing on the wrong thing.... sort of a bait and switch for morons.....

    If that's the case, I doff my cap for a pretty clever move...
     
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    The traitors are the witch hunters, and they could ask him themselves. Trump should be as uncooperative as possible, never cooperate with witch hunters.
     
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    By which I mean people are queuing up to tear her down? It's perfectly fine to look into the motivations of witnesses and examine their credibility and Hutchinson's is in tatters, you just WANT to believe her so badly. You see I don't think the anti-Trumpers get it, people like me who defend Trump don't actually believe in him, we know he's an idiot. People support him because he is the symbol of backlash against wokeism, political correctness etc He is the revenge of the "deplorables". In that one remark Hilary Clinton signified everything wrong with the DNC and the political elite, their contempt for a large part of the US population and their values.
     
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    So what if he wanted his rally attendees where he was speaking to remain armed. Big Whoop. That in no way proves anything. Though you sure do think it does. That you think it means so much shows how much you are stretching to reach your goal of political wack-a-mole.
     
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    Monster Whoop!

    I've always backed the mole as not doing anything illegal on 1/6 with JUST the "fight like hell" rally speech.... of course, it was completely un-American, as we expect from him, but not necessarily illegal.

    I no longer do... this knowledge changes the intent equation substantially... this from one of yours...

    SNIP
    “The critical thing he says is ‘they’re not here to hurt me,’ which implies that in his mind, he knows they’re here to hurt someone,” McCarthy continued. “And the second thing he says, which I don’t think has gotten enough attention, ‘they can come in, they can hear me, and then they can march to the Capitol.’

    “So he’s very aware that you have a mob that’s armed to the teeth that he is planning to encourage to march on the Capitol. And then as the testimony ensues, we find out that he not only intended them to do that, he wanted to participate, he actually wanted to lead them down there.”

    “That knowledge opens up the possibility that you could prosecute for aiding and abetting the intimidation of federal officials, which is a pretty serious crime,” he added.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.mediaite.com/podcasts/f...w-mccarthy-believes-trump-will-be-prosecuted/

    Don't stop Believin'!!!
     
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    Your post is confirmation that Trump has a very large stinky vagina.
     
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    You aren’t making any sense
     
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    You have me confused for a rightists and trumpist. I speak the truth. Trump has no balls and has grown a vagina.
     
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    You sound like a leftist lmaooo. Text book.
     
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    You smell like trumpist.
    They have products for these issues.
     
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    Maybe even a Vlad-ist.
     
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    That’s a quality leftist response lol.
     
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    I didn't grow a vagina as your hero has. My comments are gospel regarding his stinky vajeen.
     
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    That’s exactly the quality of leftist response in todays political landscape lmao
     
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    And you buy that explanation. You buy the explanation that he knew/wanted them to attack the capitol. While he was there marching with them. A person that they mockingly call "Bonespurs" because he did what he could to avoid the draft (just like any other rich person). A person that once admitted that he saw someone bleeding and he wouldn't help them because he was afraid of catching something. And he was going to put himself in the middle of fighting?

    Trump is a braggart and a bully. And like all braggarts and bullies they are fundamentally cowards at heart and would not, will not, put themselves in any sort of danger.

    The only thing this narrative opens up is evidence of the gullibility of Trump haters.
     
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    The point of the claim, was that partisanship has been connected with hypocrisy, by your very own posts.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...steering-wheel.601157/page-13#post-1073553898

    Therefore, your claiming that you are a partisan, is tantamount to admitting that you are also a hypocrite, at least sometimes. So, my question was, how can you condemn partisans on the Left, as hypocrites, if you're a partisan hypocrite for the other side? Then I realized that your faulting others for behavior that you espouse, for yourself, is merely taking hypocrisy to its natural end.
     
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    Because it is FALSE INFORMATION:

    Wild Bill Kelsoe said: ↑
    If she related false information, then she lied.

    In point of fact, you see, merely being wrong about something, is not considered as "lying," which implies that it is the liar's understanding, that he or she is presenting false information, as if it were true. By beginning a story with, "So- and- so told me this," you are not making any contentions whatsoever, about any of the contents, of the story, other than that you came to know them, through your quoted source.
     
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    If she KNEW her testimony wasn't 100% correct, then she lied.
     
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    And what leads you to suppose, Ms. Hutchinson felt this to be the case? Since lying under oath is a serious offense, common sense would dictate that she did believe that all of her testimony was truthful. Whether or not any of the information fed to her by a fellow aide, was accurate, is another matter.

    It is worthy to note, however, that though some (anonymous?) Secret Service personnel, have pushed back against a couple of specific details, about the story she'd been told about Trump, the Service has confirmed that Trump had both known that members and of the crowd were armed, and had been adamant about wanting to be taken to the Capitol, to be with his supporters. IOW, as I have said all along, whether or not Trump tried to grab the steering wheel, or had laid hands on the agent, while making for very colorful testimony, are not particularly crucial details. And there has been no one, who has called anything else, from her substantial testimony, into question.

    Something to consider.
     
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    It sounds like we have conflicting accounts. I guess that's all the desperate republicans need to pretend Trump isn't a piece of ****.
     
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    We don't have conflicting accounts. We have two eye witnesses who aren't being courted by leftist giving their first-hand accounting, and we have a junior staffer to a staffer of the President with a revenge motive (thought she was going to get a cushy job at Mar-a-Lago but didn't) giving us hearsay and reveling in life as the left's new Avenatti. Your side ran this scam before, it didn't work then but they expect it to work now and its just sad.
     
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    The traitors are those who support, downplay or find nothing wrong with Jan 6.
     
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    She knew it wasn't truthful. She just figured she would get a free pass because she's making Trump look bad.
     

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