Watch Uvalde school shooting video obtained by Statesman showing police response

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  1. Ruger87

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    I’m sure he’s not interested. Gay sex is a Democratic value. Lol
     
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    Is that the best you got? LOL, maybe you shouldn't engage me further. You're embarrassing yourself.
     
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    Am I? I’m pretty sure that’s a very important value to Democrats.
     
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    Freedoms and equality are important to libs. Sadly Rightists only crave hatred and divisiveness.
     
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    I know. Democrats definitely embrace their immorality. Homosexual sex and baby-killing. Gee, what a platform.
     
  6. WalterSobchak

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    The sooner you come to grips that all the old boomers time on this planet whose minds have been poisoned by the far right are nigh, the easier the GOPs death spiral will be for you.
     
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    Wrong. Keep importing them from Mexico, the Middle East, Africa etc. The white liberal agenda is gonna go down in flames gloriously. You can say goodbye to the gay stuff, womens rights, etc.. Say toodle-o.
     
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    Don't ever give me that visual again. Ugh.


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    We should sue Kool-Aid. It was obviously their fault.
     
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    Biden being better to deal with makes him a far bigger Traitor than Trump in many respects .. assuming that was true.

    Biden has proved himself to be a far bigger Traitor than Trump regardles of such speculations .. which I think is the main point .. and while Trump talked the dictator talk - agree on that .. .. Biden has walked the walk .. the real Goblin in sheeps clothing and puppet.
     
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    The video proves no such thing.

    There were NOT UNABLE to stop the shooter they were cowardly and worthless people who REFUSED to stop him.

    Your claim is what is ludicrous.
     
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    I don't think you have engaged with anyone who has referred to the topic of this thread. Including me. This is not about the religion or country of origin of the people, which is what you appear to be focused on. It's about what is and what is not a solution to the gun epidemic that is costing the life of many people, including hundreds of children.

    As I have proven, the mantra about "a good guy with a gun" has been proven inadequate. And this applies, not just to the videos on the OP, but to many instances of mass shootings.

    Because the mantra applies to stopping shooters AFTER the people they target have been killed. As if that brought any of them back to life. We need to stop or even reduce, as other countries have, the number of dead by stopping the shooting BEFORE the targeted people are killed.
     
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    Therefore they were UNABLE to stop the shooter. Period!

    It doesn't matter why. And, keep in mind that these good guys with guns were fully trained and their job is to stop the bad guy. They didn't! But some expect security guards who took a one week course, or even completely untrained teachers, to do the job these guys, for whatever reason, were unable to do.

    And this happens again and again: people either "REFUSE" (like you say) or are unable to stop the shooter, because the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun before they kill the people they target is NOT a good guy with a gun, but not allowing them to have a gun in the first place.

    Cops can be re-trained, and the errors these guys committed can be corrected. Not so for the regular Joe who just happened to stumble by a mass shooting. Or a teacher who is trained to educate, but not to kill people.
     
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    And he did it with his bare hands, not.
     
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    That was proven as fascist right wing propaganda the same day they started pushing that crap. I see where you get your sources

    Here are mine:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna30511
    https://www.bbc.com/news/61607042.amp

    How pathetic
     
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    Exactly my point! And if trained cops can sit in their ass for 77 minutes (not 50), what would you expect of an untrained regular Joe? The cops' training can be modified. Anybody else with a gun, no matter how "good" they are will have no training and is therefore even LESS likely to do any better.

    So if that doesn't work, that means that putting more guns out in the streets is not going to solve the problem. It's only going to make it easier for bad guys to have guns.

    And according to you, it's black people they SHOULD be shooting at.
     
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    We could talk about cowardice, because it was (supposedly) these guys' job to stop the bad guy. And that's what they were trained to do. But fear is a very human reaction. Gun advocates would put the life of people in the hands of regular untrained citizens. They expect them to do better. And they stake the life of children on it.
     
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    I guess someone should explain to you how they drop the ball because obviously you're unable to see that because your agenda doesn't jive with it. So just keep pretending that you don't understand it.

    As for your last sentence....just lol. Shameless lie.
     
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    Remove all guns just like they removed all drugs.
     
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    You can't train the coward out of a person.
     
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    Imagine seeing this tragedy and the first thing that pops in your mind is how to use it to strip fundamental constitutional rights from your fellow citizens (except for the elite who get to keep their mini-armies of armed guards).

    Benjamin Franklin was right about people like you. Those who would trade fundamental liberty for perceived safety DESERVE neither. Move to Mexico, they have the stringent gun laws you crave.
     
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    I'm curious about how some field, electrical or magnetic, can make a chemical based firing weapon with a manual trigger not operate.
     
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    Or somebody to explain to you that, if trained cops whose job it is to stop this can "drop the ball", expecting that untrained citizens whose job is NOT to get in the way of a shooter won't "drop the ball", is absurd. And that putting the life of more children on the line based on this expectation boarders criminal stupidity.

    Can't put it simpler terms. So you're on your own from here on out...
     
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    Only when unarmed.
     
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    Exactly! And if you can't train it out of people whose job depends on not being cowards, how idiotic would it be to expect if for a person whose job is NOT to not be a coward.

    So you put more military-style weapons out on the street, and most of them will end up in either the hands of somebody who is NOT going to stop a mass shooting (be it out of cowardice, or for any other reason), or they end up in the hands of a mass shooter.

    BTW, the main reason that a regular citizen is not going to stop a mass shooting is that, even if they use a gun against them, the shooter will have already killed people. Making it more difficult for that mass shooter to get their hands on a gun WILL reduce the number of instances, as well as the number of dead in those instances that cannot be stopped.
     

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