Watch Uvalde school shooting video obtained by Statesman showing police response

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  1. dbldrew

    dbldrew Well-Known Member

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    so he is still free running around killing people? or did a good guy with a gun stop him?
     
  2. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I see you're erased 90% of my post so you didn't have to address what happened to the chief of police who had them sitting on their ass
     
  3. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Then they were obviously in the wrong line of work and should not be law enforcement officers.

    Most people run away from gunfire a cop's job is to run towards gunfire.
     
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    Of course the magapatriots are defending the cops — the same cops that had the punisher logo on their phones and are now arguing that they should not be held responsible for hiding and blocking parents from trying to save their children.

    And of course no one is allowed to criticize the police because if they do then it’s their fault that police refuse to do their job.

    It’s a fascinating array of mental gymnastics used to excuse these public servants, but many of the do the same with politicians so it should be expected I guess.
     
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  5. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    In order to do that they would actually have to do their jobs and not be guilty of cowardice
     
  6. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    Oh, now I understand what I did wrong. I didn't use my "BS Spinner" before reading. I've got to make a note to remember to do that each time. Thanks!

    These are the people they are now claiming to give a damn about? /smdh

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  7. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    Remember the time Trump mentioned all the officers and expressed concern about their well-being after this? Yeah, me neither.

    Doesn't their posting histories show they don't care about what happened to those cops? They sided with the criminals in that case.


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  8. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Nope, what the video shows is extreme cowardice as an hour an 14 minutes later the shooter was rushed and killed with a gun.

    False,
    As you can't name a shooter that wasn't stopped with a gun. lol
    Ridiculous

    False,
    they were cowards

    False. The only thing ludicrous is your uninformed education.

    Oct. 1, 1997
    Luke Woodham fatally stabbed and bludgeoned his mother and went on to kill two students and injure seven others at his high school. Woodham was stopped by Assistant Principal Joel Myrick, a U.S. Army Reserve commander, who detained Woodham by using a .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol he kept in his truck, until authorities could show up.

    April 24, 1998
    Andrew Wurst showed up to his middle school dance with his .25-caliber pistol. He fired it, killing a teacher, wounding a second one, and injuring two students. It was ended when James Strand, the owner of the banquet hall the dance was happening in, confronted Wurst with his personal shotgun.

    Jan. 16, 2002
    A 43-year-old Nigerian former student named Peter Odighizuwa arrived on campus with a handgun. Law students Tracy Bridges and Mikael Gross ran to their cars after hearing gunshots and grabbed personally owned firearms. They approached Odighizuwa, ordering him to drop his firearm; he did and was subdued by the students.

    Dec. 9, 2007
    Jeanne Assam was at church when a 24-year-old gunman named Matthew Murray began firing at parishioners in the parking lot. Murray claimed two victims before Assam opened fire on him with her personally owned concealed weapon. After receiving multiple hits from Assam, Murray then shot himself.

    July 19, 2009
    A man entered a Golden Market in Virginia in 2009 and began firing a gun. He shot and wounded the clerk and then began firing at patrons inside. He was attempting to reload when he was shot, wounded, and then subdued by a permit holder who happened to be in the store.

    At least 69 mass shootings (including schools) have been stopped by armed civilians since 1990, data collected by the Crime Prevention Research Center shows. This flies in the face of the media arguing mass shootings are caused by lack of gun control. The truth is, armed civilians stop mass shootings regularly, and one major way to dampen the amount of mass shootings is to allow people to carry guns wherever they go.
     
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  9. Nemesis

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    Oh, but of course it was "just a normal tourist day", and those were members of "Antifa" anyway!

    Yes, Trump and his kooks pretend to support the police, but in reality don't give a **** about them.
     
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    Lol. This one actually thinks when it’s all said and done, these minorities are going to embrace and take care of him.
     
  11. jcarlilesiu

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    No, this thread is about eliminating guns.

    You said so in your OP.

    You don't get to say ridiculous things like that, and when challenged say "we aren't discussing that".
     
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  12. Soupnazi

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    Then chilldren who died do not define reality..

    Yes they could have protected them they refused to do so and that is a significant distinction. It is a distinction which no amount of whiny virtue signaling can change.

    It proves your premise wrong
     
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  13. Reasonablerob

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    Too often, if that guy did not present a threat to life at that point it would have been illegal to fire on him
     
  14. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Nobody is going to NOT be scared in that scenario.
     
  15. Reality

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    Because Bruen is the latest case and clarifies the test. No interest balancing tests are allowed, and all those cases you and your friend cite are using interest balancing tests.

    You have to have a law or restriction in place at the time of the passage of the bill of rights. No such restriction was in place ergo, they're unconstitutional.

    Mj: 2016 and a lower court misinterpreting Heller does not beat 2022 and Scotus clarifying Heller.

    https://reason.com/2022/07/14/this-...hat-assault-weapon-bans-are-unconstitutional/
    https://reason.com/2022/06/24/scotu...-second-amendment-as-a-constitutional-orphan/

    And you of course knew that, because you are so learned and wise as to be able to discuss this topic intelligently. Surely.
     
  16. Reality

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    Police are immune. Do you want an example of police chasing a suspect into a trailer park and mag dumping on him and killing a child in the backstop but suffering no ill consequences but a paid vacation?
     
  17. MJ Davies

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    I hate all of them and will never forgive their excuses for what happened to the police or our lawmakers that day.

    The discussion about the Uvalde mass shooting flips back the other way but they pretend this is nothing.

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    This video reinforces the idea that this was some sort of training exercise. The video shows play actors doing their thing.
     
  19. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's right. I quote only the portion of the posts for which I have a comment. And delete the parts of no interest. Now you're getting a better idea of how it works. The police chief is irrelevant to the point I'm making in this thread.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not any way that is relevant to the point I am making in this thread.
     
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    So there you go... That's part of my point.
     
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    What the **** are you talking about? Nobody is defending the police response. Nobody.
     
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    You don't have a point. The argument you're trying to make is erroneous.
     
  24. MJ Davies

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    The really confusing part is they are simultaneously running through the streets with their hair on fire that all teachers are now "groomers" (complete bastardization of that word) AND they want to arm them?

    Most teachers live close to the poverty line, works for hours before and after their in-classroom hours and have to deal with all problems at home, manage Individual Education Plans and still do parent-teacher conferences, school functions after hours and field trips. Sure, let's add one more responsibility onto the people we clearly, as a collective, have shown we don't care about. /smdh

    Personally, and it's too far away from you OP, I think they should be more worried about why 10 year old girls are pregnant and more and more younger people are stockpiling an arsenal to go unleash on a bunch of strangers. I guess that would be too close to actually address the "ties that bind" though, so it's not open for discussion.
     
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  25. dbldrew

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    the lunatic teachers who are extreme left that would fall into the "groomer" category would never own a gun in the first place so its a moot point.. but for the "normal" teachers that just want to teach and also protect children.. yep let them be trained just like the police and be armed in the classroom
     

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