Full title: Germany turns off the hot water: Hanover becomes first big city to ban hot water in public buildings in response to Russian gas crisis I believe Germany was warned something like this might happen. Anyway, with all the pain being blamed on Putin and his war, what I never hear is what is being done to negotiate an end to it. On top of that, I truly believe the global warming alarmists will use the war and the ensuing energy shortage to get us on to alternative energy sources albeit more expensive energy sources. Once Germany reduces their energy use I doubt they’ll ever let their usage return to normal. This crisis is not going to waste.
what do you mean, are you suggesting we should go to war with Putin, WW III? Putin is the bad guy here, he can change at any time, but like Trump, he is bad to the bone I fear and will never change
Ah so. And the European countries are always touted by certain liberal posters here as the paragon of the civilized world and a role model for the US to emulate in all things. Well my reaction to their problems is -- two tears in a bucket and the red duck said [expletive that rhymes].
If Germans are stupid, Russians are even more stupid. Germany will never trust or rely on Russia again. If Russians can do hardship, so can Germans. Russia can take their gas and smoke it. Germany... could import gas from Britain, Denmark, Norway and the Netherlands via pipelines. https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...lude Yamal-Europe,Russian gas in recent years.
And that is a BAD thing in your world?? What is "normal"? Of course they'll eventually allow hot water in their public buildings when they find a gas replacement, but with a neutered post-war Russia, many countries are simply going to have to create and adjust to a new normal... Much like higher gas prices, this is the price a free world has to pay to stop authoritarian countries... Don't be surprised if countries stop working with the US if we elect another fascist POTUS.... Finally, what's with the hyperbolic title?? One city is NOT Germany, is it??
I have never seen a single liberal (or any person for that matter) deem any county on Earth as a “paragon of the civilized world” — all nations have issues. Does such psychobabble actually make for a good discussion typically for you? This does illustrate what reliance of fossil fuels from foreign nations, especial hostile or unstable ones, typically leads to. The US faces a similar issue with our own oil production as we export most of our domestic supply for refining to other nations and import oil and fuel that we actually use. Which is why we had to negotiate with SA to cut production after COVID and are now trying to get them to ramp back up or else we face $5.00 - $7.00 /gal gas prices. Maybe this will be a learning lesson for the entire world — but I doubt it.
I find it hard to believe you have missed the many discussions here on PF concerning health insurance, gun control, economic policy, energy policy and the like where the European approach was claimed to be superior. The learning lesson is maybe not to buy into the global warming religion. If Biden and the Dems wanted to address fuel prices we would implement policies that would increase domestic production and encourage the building of more refineries. Instead we get more government subsidies of green power "solutions" that cannot compete in a free market. Just more crony capitalism that the Dems seem to love, i.e., where monetary success is achieved via collusion and connections with the government and not via the free market. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ation-reduction-act-or-radical-green-new-deal The list goes on for hundreds of pages and details a combination of tax credits, subsidies, and regulations for the energy choices preferred by the D.C. elite, such as wind and solar, while increasing the costs to access more reliable, more abundant energy sources like gas and oil on federal lands. The entire bill is predicated on misperceptions (or misrepresentations) about energy markets. Not only does the act’s energy section commence with the extension of energy tax credits for technologies that we are continuously told are already competitive, but it also dictates a series of new labor and wage regulations. This is odd given how many times President Joe Biden tells us about the good-paying jobs his environmental agenda will create.
What an idiotic headline. One city in Germany cuts hot water in its public buildings, and that means "Germany turns off hot water". face palm Let's create Armageddon, but then again, it's the dailymail.co.uk. Cutting consumption by 15% is what all 27 EU countries agreed upon recently and this is one example of what cutting consumption can look like. Who knows they might even close some public swimming pools to save energy.
100% agree.... Somebody in Croatia flushes a toilet = European water deficit reaches critical levels..... They cater to the Chicken Little crowd, and there are plenty of takers...
And then there is the Jiminy Cricket Crowd. You know, the character that didn't prepare for Winter and almost froze.
I wasn’t aware a single city in Germany represented European policy. That’s a fascinating removal of logic. Europe does indeed surpass the US by several metrics and some are worthy of the Americans looking at what is working and what isn’t to implement on their own shores if they can ever delete the regressive stranglehold that has developed. As to “green” energy — that is the future in many areas. It is one of the few ways an individual can completely remove themselves from the grid — it is less volatile and can be produced locally. Since you believe the US just needs to “drill more” and “subsidize” oil companies even further — what percent of oil drilled in the US or our shores is used in the US?
Chicken Little crowd? How many times have we been told the world is going to end in 12 years? Think of all the things libs said what global warming will do, things such as coastal areas flooding, droughts, water shortages, more hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. Plus global warming is racist; that’s always my favorite one.
Well said.... I love my country, but I hate people who think we are the only ones who develop the BEST solution to everything.... We've got a great track record in many places, and a horrible track record in others.
Your point?? Do you pay attention to the weather situations around the world??? You'll be denying climate change right up until the day a wave, wind gust, or thirst takes you to meet the great MAGA in the sky....
That is the difference between patriotism and nationalism. One wants to see their country improve while the other thinks we need to revert to some magical point in our history when people that looked like them had it best.
As I have commented on in a previous thread, in 2016 the US eliminated at 40 year ban on exporting crude oil. I am in favor of implementing similar legislation to the 1975 Energy Policy and Conservation Act. BTW, wasn't it Obama that signed off on resuming the export of domestic crude? It is probably a good idea for one to be off the grid if possible. I looked into solar. It was expensive and the ROI, at the time was at least 15 years. That assumes that a severe storm does not destroy solar panels.
I agree to an extent. Oil is a valuable resource and we need prevent companies and other nations from exploiting us. I would like to see a concession on pricing — if gas is below x you can sell oil to the highest bidder, once it goes above that amount it stays in the country. We had our office done and the contractor gave me a very good deal on my house. We had an 8 year return on the office building so it made sense at the time. If it’s been a while I would check on the cost again, depending on your area some states / cities have some very favorable programs to lower the cost burden.
Germans aren't that ******* as Putinists may think. We neither need ruZZian gas nor oil for a fulfilling life. Raw materials that have blood on them are very unpopular here. Most of us are proud to wear a thick sweater for the victory of Ukraine over fascist ruZZia! That's the least we can do.
Healthcare is one of my biggest issues. I have family in two different European nations and it puts ours to shame. I had to navigate the healthcare system in the US when my mother had pancreatic cancer and it is disgusting what was commonplace and she had great insurance. I couldn’t imagine if she didn’t have an advocate every step of the way. In Europe she would have had a care team — now granted the US does have some of the best highly specialized care but we are lacking in many other basic areas. I know too many people that forgo care because it is too expensive only for it to eventually turn into something major. Our social security / retirement system is also a joke that is just raided by the government when they feel like it. We are also getting less and less competitive on the world stage for educational attainment.
As if there have never been waves, wind gusts, or thirst throughout history. lol No one is denying climate change as in actual climate change happens and has always happened throughout recorded history. Rather people deny the religion of climate change, a scheme to redistribute wealth by: 1. Creating Carbon credits that do not have any intrinsic value; 2. Creating Carbon allowances via the UN and forcing developed countries to purchase Carbon Credits from undeveloped countries; 3. Creating Carbon allowances at the State or National level and using the same approach as #2 above. Say company 1, a government connected company is allowed by government to emit more Carbon than they will actually emit. Another company, say company 2 that does not have government connections is allowed by government to emit less Carbon than than their business will produce. Now they have to purchase Carbon credits from company 1 thereby distributing income. So there it is. A scam.
Regarding your first paragraph, think about where the raw materials for car batteries come from, or how diamonds are mined and what they fund, or all the stuff made by slave labor in China that we import. As for your second paragraph, I’ve heard about the proud women in CA who don’t take showers because of whatever outrage is currently trending. And when it comes to heat, unless we’re in some kind of pride parade, there is only so much clothing we can remove before we get arrested
