The Chinese Wuhan Covid-19 Vaccine.

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Would you still take the Chinese Wuhan Covid-19 Vaccine again, knowing what you know about it now?

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  1. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

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    Would you still take the Chinese Wuhan Covid-19 Vaccine again, knowing what you know about it now?



    That it doesn't protect entirely against the Virus.
    That it can have a lifetime of horrible side effects, such as sterilization.
    That there are more and more studies done on it, and it's possible side effects, and probably going to be a lot more side effects that come out about it.

    They're forcing it upon children now.
    Flip Flop Faccui. Who can trust that guy? The head of Covid-19, in America.

    That is was possibly used as a political weapon, to achieve an Agenda, for more than one Country. China, and American Democrat Politicians.
    That America Democrat Politicians(aka BIG GOVERNMENT), were basically, forcing people to take it. (including in the military or they could get fired. And even people that had their jobs with 401 k's, and retirement benefits, and government jobs, making it so that if they didn't get the shot, that they would lose all of their benefits.) Leaving very little options.
    How the Democrat Politicians ran covid itself was pretty much immoral. Just look at places like New York, compared to Florida.

    Democrat Politicians got caught also faking the numbers, to make deaths, and people who got covid itself, look a lot worse then it really was. They did this to make people live in Fear.
     
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    I never took the vaccine, so I'm not ganna vote.

    But I'm glad, that I didn't.
     
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    I was scheduled to take the vaccine on May 26. 2021 but I had the free time to research it during the three weeks before I was scheduled to take it and I decided... there is no way that I am taking this thing. What I have found out since then has made me even more adamant that I will not take this vaccine... even if I have to flee down from Canada into America because Canada's P. M. Justin Trudeau's has some pretty ambitious plans for the near future apparently?!





    Leslyn Lewis vs Justin Trudeau: WHO Pandemic Treaty
     
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    FYI, we have a covid section and a conspiracy section too.
     
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    I've never taken one of those. I did receive three doses of AstraZeneca COVID-19 Vaccine (Vaxzevria) though.

    If it is recommended that I receive any more doses (or any of the other actual COVID vaccines), I will make a judgement on the basis of my own knowledge and experience with information from reliable expert sources (where I do have an unfair advantage of several friends who are especially qualified).

    What I won't be doing is listening to the opinions of random people on the internet making socio-political rants. :cool:
     
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    Not being stupid, insane, suicidal or brainwashed, of course I'd take it again.

    Is this a trick question? I mean, you're asking people if they regret not dying.
     
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    good for you! you know that all by yourself! wow!

    This is the section for a poll. If you look at the very top, there is a question, for that poll to take place.

    People vote in that section. That's how the poll works. lol.
     
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    I prefer not to listen to Big Government, that are Socialists, and wanna be Communists. Like China, that are trying to force a needle in my arm. The talk about Choice, with abortion, and then mandate the vaccine, telling people they will get fired from their long term jobs, if they don't get it.

    Especially, when they lie about the statistics, and are perfectly fine with having thousands and thousand of people die, threw their ignorance, and mistakes, when warned not to do something, they do it anyways. Just look at Cuomo in New York? Owe wait, the Democrat Politicians threw him under the bus.

    But at one point and time, they were hailing him as possibly running for President! lmao!
     
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    I would still take it. When I took it, which was April of 2021, it was effective against the strains that were prevalent. When I finally contracted COVID the following November, it was a mild case.

    If I hadn't taken it when I did, I may not necessarily take it now, unless they have been updated for the more current strains. But since it seems that the veracity of the more current strains continues to lessen, it may not be necessary.
     
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    You're not talking to "Big Government", you're talking to me. You're certainly not talking to China. Neither of us are living China and no government, organisation or individual in China is doing anything to force either of us to take any vaccine.

    Does that mean you support personal choice in both abortion and vaccination? Do you think companies should be required to provide reasonable maternity leave then allow the mothers return to a similar role or should they be free to just instantly fire employees who get pregnant?

    There are plenty of safety and security measures employees are required to follow to keep their jobs (some enforced by law, others by choice of an employer) and some of those measures could be considered flawed or even counter-productive by some employees. Such rules are commonly ignored or circumvented in all sorts of places (I've seen it and I used to work in a hospital!).

    If you believe individual employees should be free to refuse to take the vaccine yet still work as normal, alongside colleges and/or customers then you'd have to support the same principle applying to literally any other safety measure implemented in any workplace. All it would require would be one person to feel as strongly against that safety measure as you feel about COVID vaccines.

    Sadly politicians (and people discussing political issues in general) lie all the time. Some of politicians and other people speaking out against vaccines have spread lies as well. A major part of the issue here is getting and understanding the clear and simple facts (hint; you're not helping).

    This is why I didn't say anything at all about government or politicians in my initial response, the one that you clearly entirely ignored in favour of continuing the irrelevant political rant from the OP. Do you have any comments on what I actually said about my personal decision making process regarding further vaccination in response to the question you actually asked?
     
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    so telling someone working in a job that they have had for say most of their lives, and have saved up things like their 401k, retirement, special benifits, private insurance, and things that they get after they retire, government jobs, and telling them, that if they don't get the vaccine, that they'll get fired, isn't forcing anything upon anyone?

    It's threating their livelyhood, and their families livelyhood, so, yes, I'd say it's forcing them to do something that they would possibly normally turn down, if they had an actual "choice", but there was no choice.

    It was, get the jab, or get fired. Get the jab of get kicked out of the military. How moral is that?

    Plus, I didn't think that was the democrat way, in America? You know, the whole, it's a woman's body choice thing?
    and yet, you can get your livelyhood and many other things taken away from you, if you don't get an unwanted needle put in your skin, and body.
     
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    I honestly hope, that you don't have to suffer any one of the side effects, that will continue to come out.
    Because I wouldn't wish those side effects on anyone.
     
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    Well I can't speak for anyone outside of my circle of knowledge, but nobody I know has had any adverse reactions to any of the vaccines or boosters.
     
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    You specifically said China is forcing the jab in to your arm. That simply isn't true. I was just cutting through the empty rhetoric to get to the actual point (if there is one).

    Vaccine mandates (or indeed just requirements decided on by individual businesses) are somewhat restrictive, though aren't strictly forcing since not working there is an option (even if it isn't a generally favourable option). It's certainly not a good thing and it can (and should) be handled reasonably - where reasonable compromise can't be accommodated, employees should be free to resign, thus keeping most of those benefits.

    As I said though, this is far from the first or only requirement imposed on employees as a condition of taking/keeping a job, some imposed by government, some imposed by employers. My question remains whether you're saying we should all be free to ignore any of these conditions without any risk or change to our job or are you saying there is something uniquely special about this vaccine (beyond the fact you don't agree with it of course, which could apply to anything)?

    If a chef decides they don't want to wash their hands after going to the bathroom, should they be free to?
    If a doctor decides they don't want to give patients anaesthetic before operations, should they be free to?
    If a bus driver decides they don't want to stop at red lights or keep to the speed limit, should they be free to?
    If a colleague actually has a serious infectious illness (say measles, SARS or flu) but decides they still want to come in to work alongside you, should they be free to?

    If any of these employees couldn't be convinced against their opinions or some reasonable compromise found, do you think they should remain free to continue in their job as they wish or could the company be able to fire them?

    Well, I'm not an American Democrat and my opinion on abortion is more nuanced that either simplistic extreme. I'm not convinced they're entire comparable issues anyway, but since you apparently do, why did you ignore my reverse question; Does this mean you support unconditional free choice on both abortion and vaccination?

    That specifically is already the case in a number of jobs of course. Plenty of roles require some form of medical intervention, including various vaccines in the medical field (which I even needed, despite not being clinical), anything involving international travel or anything that might require drug testing.
     
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    I'm glad that you decided not to take it.
     
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    Democrat Politicians, never admit when they're wrong. so taking responsibility for their actions, isn't something that they do.

    Knowledge, without Truth means nothing. God is Truth. Knowledge can easily be false, lies, and minipulation, but it doesn't make it logical, or moral.

    I hope that you and your friends don't have to experience any side effects, but I'm not ganna take that chance. Especially, when everything was rushed, and the shot doesn't protect aginst the virus. Even though it was said that it would do so.
     
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    Well each person has to make their own choice I suppose. And I hope you realize your assessment of Democrats is representative of politicians everywhere, and especially those who feel the need to tell you that they are the ones telling you the truth and everything else is fake. The more a politician tells you that only they are telling you the truth, the more you know they are lying more than most.

    It should have never been claimed that the vaccine would prevent infection. That wasn't how this vaccine worked. With the politicized nature of the the shots before they were even released, they should have been honest and straight-forward. What the vaccines did do, at least for the first year, was give your body a better chance of beating it, or beating it without heavy symptoms and lasting effects. With the infection rate what it was all over the world, it was only natural that new variations of the COVID virus would emerge. Vaccines need retooled to combat newer strains and mutations, just like with the regular seasonal flu.
     
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    I'm vaxxed against corona, just like I'm also vaxxed against polio and what not.
    I got an entire list of it somewhere. And I heard there is a new outbreak of polio in NY.

    Like... lol
    That disease is nasty, and ppl are scared of a little needle in the arm to protect your butt.
    But as good as the same ppl got some ink art done on their skin without freaking care in the world where that ink came from and what it could do.

    FYI. The EU recently banned all kinds of ink for tattoo artists.
    They found out they were a health hazard, as in cancer.

    https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/body/health/a38662935/coloured-tattoo-ink-banned/
     
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    democrats are hyppocrites. They say that abortion is a choice, and yet, when Democrat Politicians threatened to fire certain people in certain jobs with mandates for the vaccine, it magically became ok, to force a needle into someone's skin.

    but democrats, what happened to "choice"?
     
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    Pff..
    As said before... nothing more sad then a bunch of right wingers who do not trust scientist making a vaccine but don't got a problem with some quack putting in ink where hardly anybody checks if that crap is any good. As figured out in the EU: plenty are cancerous and they banned lots of types of ink to be used by them.

    People will be laughing about this till the end of days when they hear about it.
     

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