Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. Noone

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    Apparently.
     
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    How do you know any of that? Has DoJ or the FBI made a statement to that effect?

    If they were looking for highly classified documents and found them then wouldn't it follow that Trump would be sitting in a jail cell by now? If they had all their ducks in a row and found what they were looking for then why was no announcement to that effect made and why wasn't Trump arrested?
     
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    Perhaps, it's time we sat them down and had a little chat....
     
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    There are laws surrounding documents and the national archives. Are you okay with them being ignored? If Trump didn't have a history of ignoring rules, regulations and laws surrounding his role as POTUS, I might agree with you. But he has no one to blame but himself for this latest action which was all about collecting documents that should never have left the WH.
     
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    The Clinton issue WAS completely different. It involved Clinton and she's completely above the law...a veritable goddess.
     
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    If they have the goods on Trump and don't lock him up then justice isn't being served. Trump needs to be in jail TODAY or this raid was nothing but political propaganda effected by the American Stasi.
     
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    It's not insulated, that's not the world we live in. You can't just turn a blind eye to the effect this has on our society. Justice may be blind(or at least it's supposed to be), but people are not and the perceptions they have of our law enforcement agencies is not meaningless or trivial. The FBI and our government are made up of people and people are fallible and vulnerable to influence.

    And no, I am not demanding "more" from them. I am demanding they have their I's dotted and T's crossed because this isn't John P. Nobody they have raided, it is a former president. What you're implying is that they often don't and shouldn't be expected to here either. And I'm telling you that's going to be completely unacceptable here because of the high profile nature of the case. If this is a bogus raid, it opens up all future presidents to being harassed by law enforcement, as it likely has already even if it turns out to be 100% legitimate, because there is a segment of our population that believes all the lies, bullshit, and claims of being a victim that come out of the Trump camp.

    I would love to see Donald Trump in prison, but I only want him going there if it's 100% legitimate. And I absolutely don't want trust in our law enforcement agencies further eroded because they are being used to settle political scores. THAT is why I want a high burden of proof and want the justifications for the raid and it's results released. The more this festers, the more it empowers Trump and his band of fake patriots.
     
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    No! Read the article, it wasn't a felony when Clinton was accused, prosecution wasn't worth it.
     
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    You mean like
    1. Having the FBI raid a former presidents home for classified documents, when any president can declassify what ever he wants?
    2. Adding 87,000 IRS agents providing 51 auditors for every county in the US to browbeat taxpayers
    3. Holding a soviet style committee hearing refusing to call key witnesses or allowing cross examination of witnesses
    4. Falsifying documents to federal judges to get illegal FISA warrants and getting away with it
    5. Instituting 50 Forensic FBI agents, two dozen CIA officials, 14 top Democrat anti Trump lawyers, and 17 Intelligence agencies accusing the president of being a Russian plant
    6. Using ONLY hearsay witnesses and refusing to have their secret whistle blower testify in impeachment hearings
    7. Holding impeachment hearings on the word of Pelosi and Schiff without getting a house vote

    And before you start regurgitating your Trumpism claims about me supporting Trump, I don't want him to run. But your party just guaranteed he will run and they just galvanized voters to vote for ANYONE running against Democrats for these obvious abuse of powers. Democrats have become everything they accuse other of. A Dictatorship that will attack its own people who don't follow their commands.
     
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    Trump's minions are fooled by their idol to the point of non-return! Did you donate yet? Keep in mind the Boss requests your contribution.
     
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    It's coming; be patient!
     
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    It don't matter what Trump took. Clinton had possession of "eyes only" documents. That's the highest level of classification.
     
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    OMG! You don't understand anything about the laws nor about the DoJ!
     
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    Or the information is way WAY out of your league.
    As I noticed you couldn't dispute any of it.
     
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    I want legally solid warrant grounds provided to a competent magistrate in order to get that warrant. I want the legal 'i's and 't's crossed to obtain it. I do NOT want the FBI to worry about persuading America that this is not political payback, or anticipating the blowback if it cannot do the persuading. There is a huge difference between law enforcement actions being legimate, and law enforcement actions being perceived as legitimate. In this divisive hyperpartisan climate, if you insist on the latter, you have just decided that Trump can in fact shoot a child in the middle of Times Square without fear. The FBI and Justice Dept cannot be held to an impossible unrealistic standard in order to prosecute Trump or any of his cronies.

    The political climate cannot be a consideration.
     
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    It's been your consistent attitude, isn't it?
     
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    Then there should be documentation for where those “missing” documents that they BELIEVED were in his possession were requested back from him. Right?
     
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    So I heard Trump was in NY when the raid occurred. Strange how Garland timed that raid when the SS wouldn’t be there.
     
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    Clinton wasn't merely "accused". Her emails, including classified communications, were found on Anthony Weiner's laptop in his home. I mean, there's mishandling and then there's mishandling.

    The difference is that she's a political goddess and Trump is Trump.
     
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    Are you trying to design new procedures for the DoJ?:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
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    The SS was informed ahead of time that this would be happening. You were aware of that before you started posting baseless conspiracy nonsense . . . right?
     
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    That's not relevant to this search warrant application and that was not a part of a fact pattern before this magistrate.
     
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    It has to be a consideration. We don't live in a vacuum. Public perception of law enforcement has serious legitimate consequences. Just look at what happened in the summer of 2020 based on public perception of police departments. Trump is an out-of-power president while his political opponents hold office and he was just raided by a law enforcement agency under the control of that opponent. Without legitimate justification being made public, this can be perceived to be no different than any third world country where the current regime tries to vanquish the out-of-power regime to make sure they can't take power again. Doesn't matter if that's actually what's happening or not, because it's what is perceived to be happening by some, and those perceptions have consequences for all.
     
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