Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. Tucsonican

    Tucsonican Well-Known Member

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    With all due respect, if the IRS comes to you and says, "You owe us $264,388.12" do you just pay them or, if you believe you don't owe that money, do you fight them? Likewise, if the FBI comes to you and says, "We want your documents" do you just hand those over or do you fight for what you believe is yours?

    Heck, do you believe that the people of this country actually have rights when they are challenged by the government?
     
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    Well, his supports keep talking about how important it is to see it . . . and he can reveal it at any time
     
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    Now that's funny!
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You voted for Joe Biden? Why? Because he was not Trump, or you liked his policies? I suspect the former.

    But, at least you voted against Trump.
     
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    source that they’re sealed? Nm you’re just making up stuff
     
  7. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    He’s making claims about why they’re there, why wouldn’t he back them up?
     
  8. Reality

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    Emphasis mine: No additional burden of proof beyond probable cause is required.
    There is no double secret probation for presidents only. They're just like every other citizen: Probable cause of a crime and a warrant may issue.
     
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    jo not joe
     
  10. Reality

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    Classified material does not belong to anyone but the US government.
    We went over and over this during Clinton. I wonder what opinions of yours we'd find from that time?
    Were you a lock her up type? Then why are you not chanting lock him up?

    I think they should be sharing a cell.
     
  11. Reality

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    Because that's how search warrants are served, mob handed and dressed for success.
     
  12. Tucsonican

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    Right. Now, understanding that there is no special burden of proof, if you want to look into the dealings of a president's son that's a completely different matter and it requires first denying that there is any evidence then declaring that the evidence is, in fact, Russian propaganda and then slow walking everything with the expectation that the president will be out of office and you can then let the investigation simply fade away...even when the case likely involves the president himself reaping financial benefits from foreign powers.
     
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    Where did you get that the FBI was looking for classified material? Has the warrant been released? Was the material in question, assuming that it was once classified, is still classified? Just to play this game a little bit, what if the FBI was going after the records Trump declassified in October of 2020 related to Russiagate?
     
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    Please don't start this foolishness. Hunter broke the law by lying on a 4473 and being a crack addict while purchasing a firearm, and by dumping a live handgun in a gun free school zone.
    He can share the cell next to hillary and trump.

    Again: There is no law requiring anything but probable cause prior to a warrant issuing. There is no extra burden of proof.
    Come off it.
     
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    Fair enough.
     
  16. Reality

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    So I see we haven't been reading the links in the thread but we sure like our opinion.
    Adorable.

    If he declassified it by actual written order (because there is a process to declassification) then it wouldn't be probable cause of a crime.
    See how that works?
     
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    There are sure photographs of thugs standing around in full kit with "Secret Service" markings all over it, if that's what you mean.
     
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    You realize that the residence of an ex president never goes without some form of detail on the grounds?
    The secret service doesn't leave primary residences empty
     
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    Trump's legal team seeking court order forcing FBI, DOJ to hand over physical copy of search warrant
    A source tells Fox News that former President Trump and his legal team will likely seek a court order to force the FBI and the Justice Department to turn over a physical copy of the search warrant, the affidavit, and a complete inventory of what was taken in the Mar-a-Lago raid.

    I reckon we are going to see.
     
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    Trump's legal team seeking court order forcing FBI, DOJ to hand over physical copy of search warrant
    A source tells Fox News that former President Trump and his legal team will likely seek a court order to force the FBI and the Justice Department to turn over a physical copy of the search warrant, the affidavit, and a complete inventory of what was taken in the Mar-a-Lago raid.

    Which I’m going to have to assume means they weren’t provided one.
     
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    I never said I voted for Biden.
     
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    Not only God but at minimum Trump and his lawyers would know. A copy of the warrant should be left at the site. I think Trump is free to show that warrant to the public if he wanted to.
     
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    I don't blame him. The heat is on the FBI (and Garland) to justify this. Right now I think Garland and Wray are hiding out in Biden's basement.
     
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    This "show the search warrant bit" is simply a quickly parrotted Democrat talking point. If, as Trump Jr. says, they don't have a search warrant, it was just flashed in their face, then it is not only a talking point, it is a stupid talking point for the low information types. Sometimes, the resident libs seem to parrot a talking point as soon as it comes out, which makes me wonder if the are glued to multiple liberal web sites or (more likely) part of the fifty cent army. Cause when something like "show the search warrant" first appearts here on PF one can check the ultra left web sites and it is there as well.
     
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    would you care either way?

    if what I said it true, would you chant "lock him up"

    a previous President will never go to prison for any crime they commit, Trump literally could shoot someone on 5th ave and get away with it imo
     
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