Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    You just did. We don't know that Trump is being formerly "investigated" by the FBI. They have said nothing about an investigation.
     
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    When posters start making fake accusation out of left field, its easy to know why.
     
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    Yeah but he wasn't wrong

    “In the United States, 90% of onshore oil production takes place on land that isn’t owned by the federal government. And of the remaining 10% that occurs on federal land, the oil and gas industry has millions of acres leased,”


    The oil industry can decide to produce more oil whenever it wants. In fact, the oil industry already possess more than 9,000 approved—but unused—drilling permits on federal lands. Nearly 5,000 of those permits were approved in 2021 alone—the highest figure since the second Bush administration.

    The number of permits already approved is about six times the average number of wells drilled annually in the past five years.

    The oil industry is sitting on 10 years’ worth of unused leases
    https://www.americanprogress.org/ar...es-cant-drill-its-way-to-energy-independence/


    More than half — 59% — of the 139 executives surveyed by the Dallas Fed listed investor pressure as the primary reason producers are keeping production down.
    https://www.dallasfed.org/research/surveys/des/2022/2201.aspx#:~:text=Slightly over half—59 percent,growth despite high oil prices.

    But when asked at a congressional hearing this month about the impact of Biden’s leasing pause, Colette Hirstius, senior vice president of oil giant Shell, said, “I do not think that not having lease sales has raised the costs to consumers.”

    The top reason domestic energy production hasn’t ramped up isn’t Joe Biden’s green energy agenda, according to oil company executives. Instead, it’s a lack of enthusiasm from investors.
    https://news.yahoo.com/oil-gas-executives-not-joe-204337317.html
     
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    We all know this not about the NA and classified documents. Even if found guilty it would not make Trump ineligible to run again according to the Constitution. This is about finding evidence Trump was directly involved with January 6 insurrection which would disqualify him.
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    The list is there to dispute
    You chose not too
    No other explanation is necessary
     
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    I already have. You didn't bother to read the thread.

    This typical of the righties. Make claims when thye don't have the foggiest idea about any of the issues, and emphasize irrelevant issues like "oh, they "went to" a magistrate. Waaaaah! *faint*"

    That lazy approach is on you.
     
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    What's your definition of personal documents?
     
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    Omg, people are actually still deluded enough to fall for that braindead bullshit? That's ****ing hilarious. Guess there's one born every minute, though.
     
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    If the investigators knew Trump had classified documents did they do any research to see if Trump declassified them? How come we haven't heard anything about that? Trump was still president when he sent those boxes to Florida. Also, if the investigators knew there was classified information Trump shouldn't have possessed they should have secured the documents themselves and not leave them with someone who they believed destroyed documents before. A team from the NA could have gone there and removed them. This whole thing seems very suspicious.
     
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    WRITINGSS ON THE WALL


    February 9, 2022

    News outlets, including CNN, report that NARA asked the Justice Department to investigate Trump's handling of White House records and whether he violated the Presidential Records Act and other laws related to classified information. The Presidential Records Act requires all records created by a sitting president to be turned over to the National Archives at the end of their administration.

    February 18, 2022

    NARA informs the Justice Department that some of the documents retrieved from Mar-a-Lago included classified material. NARA also tells the department that, despite being warned it was illegal, Trump tore up documents while he was president, and that senior officials in the Trump administration did not properly preserve their social media messages, draft tweets and deleted tweets.


    April and May 2022

    On April 7, NARA publicly acknowledges for the first time that the Justice Department is involved, and news outlets report that prosecutors have launched a criminal probe into Trump's mishandling of classified documents. Around this time, FBI agents quietly interview Trump aides at Mar-a-Lago about the handling of presidential records as part of their widening investigation.

    May 12, 2022

    News outlets report that investigators subpoenaed NARA for access to the classified documents retrieved from Mar-a-Lago. The subpoena, which is part of the process to allow investigators to take possession of the documents from the NARA, is the first public indication of the Justice Department using a grand jury in its investigation.


    https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/09/politics/doj-investigation-trump-documents-timeline/index.html
     
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    The country was doing quite well under Trump, especially before China unleashed the virus from Faucis funded lab.
    That was oddly timed wasn't it.

    I'll never forget seeing the first Trump 2020 add. I said wow, he's really gonna win in a landslide. A couple months later we were under lock down. Odd.
     
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    You are mistaken. Sasquatch released the virus once he was paid off in leprechaun gold. He needed the money for an operation for his chupacabra spouse.
     
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    Yes, a federal magistrate judge. Was there a rule saying you had to approve?

    Trump has the right to publish the search warrant, but he didn't. Why? The FBI is not allowed to publish a search warrant on a subject.

    They wanted to protect and have protection, and they had reason to believe there was more than was known.

    Standard for a former president. Just think what you would be saying of the FBI had commented. Everything is an opportunity to be partisan, right?

    They gave Trump a list of everything they took. Why didn't Trump publish it if it was so unfair?

    OF COURSE! You think they should come unprepared? They asked him to open the safe and he refused, so guess what.

    huh?
     
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    This raid was not about NA documents or even classified documents since a president can declassify them. The documents were shipped to Florida while Trump was still president.
     
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    Can you prove he didn't? Do you suppose the tens of thousands of documents Obama took with him to Chicago were declassified?
     
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    So someone born and raised in Kenya, or where ever, brought up by Muslims. You didn't know that so you have to ridicule. Yes, there are ones born every minute, you.
     
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    I Know you don't really care, but it explains here what the National Archives did, TFG being TFG, ****** as he is



    Timeline: The Justice Department criminal inquiry into Trump taking classified documents to Mar-a-Lago
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/09/politics/doj-investigation-trump-documents-timeline/index.html



    Key detail undermines argument Trump declassified documents found at Mar-a-Lago

    "Strictly speaking, even if Trump ordered the declassification of the records (verbally or in writing), what is likely to matter for purposes of handling and storing the records after he left the White House was if the mandatory follow-on actions occurred.

    Classified documents have classification markings in the header and footer of each page, indicating the level of classification for the document as a whole," they noted.


    "If Trump did in fact order the declassification, he still needed to make sure his staff took the necessary next steps to modify the classification markings on the documents before he could actually handle and store the records (as a private citizen) as if they were unclassified.

    Under security classification rules, a classification marking on a document has to be treated as valid and binding unless and until a subsequent marking replaces it. Appropriate government staffers would have needed to cross out the classification markings in the headers and footers, and stamped 'declassified' on the record noting when it was declassified, by whom and under what authority. Since that does not appear to have been done with the classified documents reportedly identified to date, the documents remain classified and had to be treated as classified for handling and storage purposes.

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-declassified/

     
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    You made a list of excuses. Not disputing anything I posted.
    But that was expected
     
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    I heard something about Obama doing that and not a squeak from the National Archivist. The guy appears to be a real partisan jerk.
     
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    If he's so guilty, why haven't they been able to even point to a crime he committed, much less provide evidence? I mean, ******n! It's been nearly 7 years...lol
     
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    Dude, he wasn't born in Kenya and wasn't raised there. Jesus, you guy really are desperate enough to fall for the dumbest bullshit imaginable.
     
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    You saying TFG messed up when he was Prez by not checking this out? I'm not surprised :)

    But there is a PROCESS to declassify

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-declassified/
     
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    Yeah, yeah! All ya need is blinders and a conspiracy theory. And BINGO!
     
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    They tossed Melania's closet

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    Right, I just made your post look ridiculous.
     
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