Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. TheTruthHurts

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    I assume you have proof of this??
     
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    I'm tempted to use your approach and tell you to google it yourself, but here are a couple of links.

    One news story:
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/column...-classified-unclassified-trump-search-warrant

    And even better, direct from the National Archives:
    https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2022/nr22-001
    August 12, 2022, statement
    The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) assumed exclusive legal and physical custody of Obama Presidential records when President Barack Obama left office in 2017, in accordance with the Presidential Records Act (PRA). NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by NARA. Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama Presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, DC, area. As required by the PRA, former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration.
     
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    Here's a good solid thoughtful analysis of the **** soup T**** has brought upon himself, by a former federal prosecutor.

    SNIP
    Trump’s best defense would likely be that he didn’t really know that classified material remained at Mar-a-Lago, because he relied on his aides and lawyers, who told him that they gave all the classified material back to the government. The problem for Trump is that doing so would likely waive attorney-client privilege between himself and the lawyers he is pointing the finger at, and it’s unclear whether any of them would be willing to take the fall for him.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-concealing-classified-documents-strongest-110000148.html

    That's always the question around this guy.... All you need is one John Dean to come forward and tell the country this guy is a lying POC. I thought we had that with Michael Cohen in 2019, but none of that went as far as it should have then because dipstick was still in office..
     
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    Would anyone who is not at ex-president be ignored if he absconded and concealed boxes of classified and top secret documents?

    Answer: No.

    Meanwhile, we should be wary of Trump goons attacking FBI offices the way they assailed outnumbered police at the Capitol.

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    I had a divorce lawyer that drew up a settlement plan giving my ex most of the good stuff leaving me with the leftovers. I asked him; who he was representing me or my wife? He admitted his error. I fired him for incompetence. Imagine if I didn't proof read it and simply signed it. I'm not impressed or persuaded by anonymous posters making silly claims like this one did.
     
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    And yet, even if the search was justified, the classified documents in Hilary's server was more at risk than Trump's. Hilary's server could be hacked from ten thousand miles away. At least they had to be in the right place to get access to Trump's.
     
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    Thank you, Condor. I was not aware of "Dept. of Navy v. Egan" ( 1988 ) at all! I wonder if any of the Trump haters are? If not, they will shortly....

    Whatever else, the Left will have a hard time saying that, "Well, ya know, I mean, like, that was way back in ancient history and doesn't relate to today...."

    That aside, and although I'm not a lawyer, the question remaining now is, did Trump go through do whatever is necessary (if anything actually is) for the classified information in question to be DE-classified...? If (IF) the answer is that Trump acted appropriately, then how is Garland going to differentiate what Trump did from what other presidents have done?
     
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    No one seems interested in the question of; If those classified documents presented a great threat to our National Security, why did the FBI (or NARA) wait so long to seize them? Who do they think they're fooling with this nonsense? The timing of it is so close to Trump announcing his run for POTUS is way too obvious to all that don't hide their heads in the sand. This was meant to discourage anyone from considering voting for him. Instead, it had the effect of driving more people into supporting him. When will the Democrats learn to trust the voters?
     
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    Do you have any grasp of why defense lawyers defend even the guilty?
     
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    Why do you like to imagine that? Please provide a comparative inventory of what was compromised.

    What charges against Clinton were brought by the Trump regime during the four year sit had to do so.
     
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    Dude, the Hillary case has been closed for 6 years. Get over it!
     
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    Yes, Mr. Ant, that is quite an impressive enumeration of stuff... none of which I've disputed. The real question, however, seems to be centering on whether or not what Trump did was ILLEGAL or not. Only this morning I have learned of a SCOTUS case from as recently as 1988 entitled "Department of the Navy versus Egan" which speaks to the heart of the issue. You can look it up....

    Now, all "hyperbole" aside, may we assume that Attorney General Garland was aware of this SCOTUS ruling before he sent the FBI barging into Trump's home...? Do the Trump-haters have all their ducks in a row or not? We'll know IF AND WHEN Garland activates the legal 'machinery' necessary to actually bring charges against Trump and proceed on to a trial in an actual COURT OF LAW... not just a "court of public opinion".
     
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    Do you think that improperly possessing classified documents has a statue of limitation imposed upon it?
     
  14. Pollycy

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    Perhaps you should focus on the text in Condor's post that states, "information bearing on national security", which, of course, is the real importance of what is on all those pieces of paper... the "documents"....
     
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    I don't know. Do you? Do you think a closed case can be re-opened on a whim? I don't know.
     
  16. Overitall

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    There is this.

    https://www.federalcharges.com/federal-statutes-of-limitations/
    The double jeopardy rule does not apply when no charges have been filed and tried.
     
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    The FBI said the server likely was hacked. We don't know what was hacked for sure in either case.
    None. Likely because it would have looked like political retribution.
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    Dude. Trump has been out of office for a year and a half. Get over it.
     
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    Yea, but Trump has a better chance of returning to the office than Hillary ever has. That threat scares the piss out of democrats.
     
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    Umm, there's a vast gulf between 1.5 years and 6 years. Hillary was never President. The Orange Incompetent was "presuhdint" a short time ago, and is still being investigated for multiple crimes.

    Once again, you guys have no perspective or context and can't draw analogies to save your lives.
     
  21. Nemesis

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    You're.

    I represent public bodies. My opinions are based on the law. You are a fringe thinker whose opinions are based on some orange conman's whims.

    You lose.
     
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    The issue isn't time related, for if it was the FBI would have acted quicker in seizing the documents. It's a matter of right and wrong and thus what Hillary did is relevant to the discussion. Besides the statue of limitation doesn't apply for her crimes.
     
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    OK, so here we are. The righties keep claiming that the Orange ClusterEff can declassify documents at a whim, and this means that he can steal government documents that he claims to have "declassified". In addition, the FBI is bad and in the thrall of Geo. Soros and the Dems. Finally, it is magically baaaad to hold an ex Presuhdint accountable. Finally, it is bbbbad, "you just wait" and "politicized" to actually use the courts to enforce the law.

    WTF? Come out from under your rocks.
     
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    It's easy to "voluntarily allow" a search about private servers.
    It's different when it's about physical papers.
    Clinton erased a lot of emails sustaining that they were private emails.

    We can only trust her about this. And I don't trust her ...
     
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    Are you a defense lawyer? If so, have you ever defended someone who was guilty?
     
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