Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    Why didn't they go through and take all of them, "more of the same-top secret and compartmented" back in June? August 8th seems like it was a set-up.

    From your newsweek source:
     
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    But there’s no evidence that this is anything other than a “by-the-book” criminal investigation.
     
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    I'll answer that. After they subpoenaed Trump for said records he took, and the higher up official and three FBI agents went to talk about and retrieve documents, they should have taken them all, not just a few classified and compartmented documents. That was their mistake. Waiting until August to do their RAID is bad optics and reeks of a set-up.
     
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    You’re missing the fact that one of trump’s lawyers signed a letter saying that, after the subpoena, no further classified documents remained in his possession.
    They had no reason to take more documents because they had been assured that everything had been handed over.
    Looks like someone lied to the FBI.
     
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    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    You would think they would, the great lovers of Democracy, after their last failed attempt to make it look like Trump was a traitor and in cahoots with Putin. I guess so long as the end justifies the means, they don't care how it's done. Just take him down.
     
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    Or Trump's attorneys were mistaken. "Former President Trump's lawyer certified in a June letter that no classified material was still at Mar-a-Lago, two sources with knowledge of the investigation tell Fox News." In light of the certification and IF charges are brought, nefarious INTENT will have to be proved.

    At any rate, I think the higher up government official and three FBI agents should have taken all the boxes with them in June. Matter solved. Everyone goes away happy.

    Former President Trump's lawyer certified in June that no classified material remains at Mar-a-Lago | Fox News
     
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    Former President Trump said,
    "Number one, it was all declassified. Number two, they didn’t need to ‘seize’ anything. They could have had it anytime they wanted without playing politics and breaking into Mar-a-Lago. It was in secured storage, with an additional lock put on as per their request..." Trump said. "They could have had it anytime they wanted—and that includes LONG ago. ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS ASK."

    Source: Post 4883
     
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    And they seized attorney-client privilege documents are refusing to allow a Master be appointed to go over what was seized and was it classified or not.
     
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    Actually, I didn't miss it.
    Maybe they were mistaken? Maybe they were correct. I have no proof that they lied. Maybe the FBI planted the classified evidence?
    Lots of possibilities and IF charges are brought, we might get to have some of them answered. The fact that no one close to Trump including his family or attorneys, and the raid occurred when Trump was in NY, raises high suspicion that the FBI planted the documents.
     
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    Have you seen the list? The search was supposed to be for classified information. And yes before he left office he could declassify whatever he wanted. If they were all stolen why didn't the FBI and NARA take them last February or last June?
     
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    Uh, how about this for an answer to your question -- I DO "want Trump prosecuted if he broke the law"...! But, unless we are nothing but a mindless mob, we must demand fewer theatrics, mouth-frothing, snide radical-Democrat innuendo, and far more focus and attention on whether any of this business of Trump and the 'documents' is even an actual CRIME, or not. All the deceitful lies about "Russia, Russia, Russia" are still very fresh on the minds of many of us!

    That's why, in this unprecedented case, the affidavit should be revealed, along with every single other detail, every order, and every action by Attorney General Garland, the FBI, and/or any other 'alphabet agency' involved in this entire thing.

    And, if, after all the air bubbles have been mashed out of it, the situation calls for Trump to be officially charged with specific crimes, then, YES, he should be made to stand trial in a court of law, and if found guilty, he must suffer the consequences of prosecution. That's what we call "Law and Order"....

    But
    , if after all this gigantic, Democrat-inspired extravaganza, there are no charges brought against Trump, then everyone associated with this 'investigation' should be brought under microscopic scrutiny, facing the very real possibility of being charged with crimes themselves! Equal justice under the law!

    [​IMG]. "Aw, hell... we all know Trump's bad... right...?" :handshake:
     
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    New Info?
     
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    I'm not knowledgeable about procedure, but one would think an Independent party would be present during the examination of any evidence taken to ensure it's done with extreme care. Are we expected to believe that no tampering with the evidence will occur? The attorney/client privilege is of great importance. It's one of the foundation pillars of our judicial system.
     
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    And had been going through them and could have continued to go through them. We don't know if these 11 sets of documents were still classified or not. Trump claims he declassified them before he left office and we know he did in October of 2020 declassified all documents associated with Russiagate and Clinton Emails. They supposedly heavily indict the FBI and DOJ and both are trying to hide them. Now they will be able to claiming it is an espionage investigation.
     
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    What proof do you have that he's angry?
    This poster always says "Enjoy your day", when he is finished with the discussion that seems to be going south, IMHO.
     
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    They were right there in all those boxes if they were stolen why didn't they take them back what new information was necessary if they were stolen?
     
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    There is a clear indication that this whole 'investigation' was ill-founded from the 'git-go' if the 1988 SCOTUS decision in "Department of the Navy versus Egan" is germane to the situation... and it does appear to be validly connected in its root-conclusions regarding the prerogatives of the president as Commander-in-Chief....
     
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    We don't even know if the documents were placed in the house or taken from the house by the FBI. How will we ever know?
    No cameras or witnesses
    Therein lies the problem. Haste makes waste on the FBI's part? Highly unlikely there will be an indictment, but, if there is, even more unlikely there will be a conviction.
     
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    Learn to read, my friend. And I wasn't posting to you.
     
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    How?
     
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    If I may add... :)
    "Egan A 1988 U.S. Supreme Court decision known as Department of the Navy v. Egan has often been interpreted to support broad presidential authority over national security generally and over access to classified information in particular. Along with United States v. Reynolds, Curtiss-Wright, and a few other cases, Egan is regularly cited in support of strong, even unchecked executive authority and judicial deference to executive claims. It has become a cornerstone of national security law as practiced today."

    More:A Critical Look at Navy v. Egan – Federation Of American Scientists (fas.org)
     
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    I can read fine and as far as I know, I am allowed to counter any and all posts. You claimed he was angry. I expressed a different way to look at it and mentioned this in my post.

    Now you be sure to Have a nice day! :)
     
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    No it is't. They were asked to return all US government material. Trump through his lawyers said they did. The search revealed they didn't. Your nonsense crackpot RW talking points are irrelevant.

    That is nothing but more BS thrown out to distract people from your traitor.

    Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect 2 billion dollars from the Russians.
     
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    You know me well Trix. You know I seek knowledge and/or entertainment. If someone can't do one or the other I have no interest in wasting any more of my time with them. But then, tomorrow is always a new day, for most of them. :)
     
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    I don't think there will be an indictment. The optics surrounding the alleged necessity of the warrant smell like last week's garbage during a heat wave.
     

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