Trump Had More Than 300 Classified Documents at Mar-a-Lago

Except precedent requires the situations to be the same. Hilary handed over the servers.

How long has Trump had to do the same?

 

That and during the FBI interviews/investigation they got the tips that Trump still had classified docs at Mar a Largo.
The rest is history.

It's been reported that there's Kash Patel and John Solomon on seurity video moving boxes out of the basment room they were in.
Also being reported now that the FBI again subpoenaed more security video.??
I personally like the checking for fingerprints on all classified documents....lol

 

BS
The OP is anti Trump...
I'm OK with those who choose to vote Democrats ... just they should be honest.

 

How secure can those documents be if Trump allowed radical liberal informants to get this close to him?

 

Thank you for showing me this

 

Breaking phones with hammers is handing over?

 

Was this before or after FBI asked her to hand them over?

 

All the letters to and from the National Archive and also after Aug 8 2022 about Mar a Largo documents,
Very interesting,


link:
"Records Released In Response to Presidential Records Act (PRA) questions under the Trump Administration | National Archives

"Records Released In Response to Presidential Records Act (PRA) questions under the Trump Administration"
NARA officials are often consulted about management of presidential and federal records. The Presidential Records Act governs access to records after the end of an administration.

The National Archives received records from the Trump Administration which ended on January 20, 2021. We are in the process of preserving and providing access to these records, including all official Trump Administration social media content, and deleted posts from @realDonaldTrump and @POTUS. As records are made available online, they may be accessed through the trumplibrary.gov website, which is part of NARA. The Trump Library will begin accepting FOIA requests on January 20, 2026 in accordance with the PRA.

Below are documents concerning records management related inquiries about the Trump Administration's presidential records.

Document Title

Document Date

White House letter to the Archivist of the United States: Trump PRA Designation February 16, 2017"

 

The complaints about the Trump administration and record keeping etc were being sent to the national Archives 6 weeks after Trump took office.

"Letter from Sens. McCaskill and Carper to Archivist David S. Ferriero March 7, 2017"

link:
Records Released In Response to Presidential Records Act (PRA) questions under the Trump Administration | National Archives

 

I was just coming to see if anyone posted this gem yet

 

Trump has been trying to sell our nuclear secrets to Saudia Arabia for a long time.

Kushner just got a $2 billion investment from the crown prince despite the committee reluctance. I'll leave it at that.

 

Because he ran for President, won, and actually tried to do for his voters what he ran on.

Unlike the worthless, corrupt, career politicians, that have done NOTHING for the TAXPAYING CITIZENS of this country.

Why would you lock someone up with absolutely no evidence?

Also, why would you be happy with your politicians sending billions of taxpayer dollars overseas instead of helping the tax payers that have lost their homes due to the current inflation crisis?

O wait, you think it's ok because your worthless corrupt politicians tell you it's ok.

Will it still be ok if they come to your home?

 

There is no such thing as a 'blanket declassification'. There is a protocol, and a blanket declassification would be reckless as hell with our nation's security.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/08/trumps-dubious-standing-order-to-declassify-documents/

“I have been engaged in declassification issues since the 1970s, and I can attest that there is no precedent for such a standing order,” Richard Immerman, an assistant deputy director of national intelligence in the George W. Bush administration, told us via email. “Further, had he issued a standing order, it surely would have been ‘leaked’ by someone and then challenged.”

Which is to say, Trump is backpedaling and he sure as hell didn't do such a thing. Many insiders, including the former National Security Advisor, John Bolten said "It almost certainly is a lie" “I was never briefed on any such order, procedure, policy when I came in,” Bolton told the Times, nor was he aware of such a policy when he worked at the White House or after. “If he [Trump] were to say something like that, you would have to memorialize that, so that people would know it existed,” Bolton said.

“The procedure is far more formal,” said Immerman, who is now a historian at Temple University. “Documents must be declassified page by page; in fact, if TS/SCI [Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information] line by line. The document then is marked declassified (often sanitized) by the authorizing agent along with the date. Consequently, former President Trump’s claim is to me implausible.”

The legal authority for classifying national security information rests in the president’s power afforded as commander-in-chief and is guided by a series of presidential executive orders, beginning with one issued by President Franklin Roosevelt in 1940. The latest of such orders, Executive Order 13526, issued in late 2009 by then-President Barack Obama, lays out in detail the procedures to declassify information, and the various officials who are to be included in such decisions. Still, the president retains the ultimate authority to declassify a document.

It's absurd. And Kash Patel is wrong. This idea that docs are going to be declassified everytime Trump is so damn lazy he just grabs boxes and takes them out of the WH, illegally, and does a CYA with 'blanket declassification', no way in hell is that going to fly in a court of law. The whole idea emboldens the notion that he is being reckless with TS/SCI and SAP docs, docs which could pose a grave threat to US National Security if they got released. Many attorneys have weighed in on that point.

However, it's a moot point anyway, the Espionage act listed on the warrant does not depend on any classification regime, it depends on damage assessments.

 

Inadequate rebuttal: "Fake news" is a thought-terminating cliché, and, as such, is not an argument.


Trump and the right often will plant thought-terminating clichés ( Such as "TDS" "Leftist fascists","Fake news" etc) in the minds of the base, which serve to curtail critical thinking which they will, in turn, toss up in debates in attempt to kill the debate.

 

It was a rhetorical question.

Duh.

 

It was reported in the Washington Post, but it Doesn't matter, The espionage act, listed on the warrant, doesn't depend on the classification regime, only damage assessments. They are not going to tell us what is in the documents. That's why they are 'Top Secret'.

 

I highly doubt they'll pursue the espionage act. On the other hand, Trump clearly violated the act on removing documents 'within the government's possession'. That act also doesn't deal with classifications, just whether the document was in the government's possession and clearly, the documents were.

That said, I have a major constitutional problem with the Act of 1978. Just because someone is president, Biden is now president. His person should still have the same constitutional rights, that they do when he wasn't president. IE: The fourth Amendment of the constitution. The 1978 act violates this, by asserting a 'claim' to so-called 'presidential records', some of which have been created by the person that is President.

It's the same thing on Trump's taxes that was just ruled. The House does not have a criminal probe, the house pretty much stated that outright. So without a warrant, they should have no right to access anything pursuant to the 4th Amendment. What happened to the protection of records and property in this country?

 

I'm not referring to department heads and he doesn't about department heads.

 

You don't need to raid a server, you ask to come in and do an ISO on it, which is precisely what they did.

With trump, this had been going on for over a year, he gave back some, but not all, and when the attorney signed a doc stating that all the docs the NARA requested were provided, and they found out it was a lie, they subpoenaed, which Trump defied, that is they 'why' of the raid, and that is why it is 'different'.

Only 3 of hillary's were marked, That means the rest of the claim is someone's opinion, and until that opinion is cross examined in a court a law, it's not an argument I'm going to agree with. All of Trump's documents were marked that were so indicated by the inventory lists. Only 3 of Hillary's were marked, and only with a (c), easily missed. You dont get an espionage charge for that. They were EMAILS. Trumps are DOCUMENTS . marked with TS/SCI. Moreover, other repubs used private unofficial email, Colin Powell did, I know, a number of Trump's staff used private emails for biz comm,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...am-have-used-unofficial-communications-tools/

 

He didn't "steal" anything. He was the president. You think no other president took documents when they left office? Of course they did. Hell, Hillary Clinton did and you all said there was no crime. Just admit this is nothing but partisan hackery.

 

No one is below the law, either. That's how it works in a free country.

 

Is that your argument?...lol

 

The warrant, itself, is questionable. Trump has already challenged it and I expect it will go to the SC, unless he can get unbiased judges on the case. Then it will be a matter of the DOJ appealing that judge's decision. If Trump wins the motion for a Master, the DOJ's game is over.