This Is The Way It Is Supposed To Work

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  1. independentthinker

    independentthinker Well-Known Member

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    Birth control instead of murder. The left have always wanted to have abortion as one of the birth control options while claiming that women's rights give them the justification to murder human life, while many ridiculously claim that all abortion before birth is acceptable, even at 9 months. This will save murders on a massive scale. And, for the record, I whole heartedly endorse birth control that doesn't involve murder. Women DO have the right over their own bodies to use birth control that doesn't involve murder. Backroom abortions are not necessary. This is how it is supposed to work.

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/teen-interest-long-lasting-birth-041659250.html
     
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    Democrats don't believe or trust that you will do the right thing. Period. So, they, and their government, will force you to submit and comply. And when you can't be trusted, there must be these social welfare centers populated by folks who got ridiculous degrees that vote for democrats where your vile behavior can be rectified. Democrats, as noted before, believe whole heartedly in Eugenics. Their master race will not be bound by mere race anymore, but by ideological purity. And everyone knows that a good breeding stock program requires direct intervention to keep the outcomes within the design parameters.

    What I find astonishing is that democrats will fight actual contraception or anything less than abortion to keep abortion "safe and available" instead of rare and necessary.
     
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    i find it astonishing that even you believe this bullshit.
     
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    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death
     
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    Well that is a really asinine post on your part.

    Birth control is the first choice - but that sometimes fails. Crap happens.
    Telling someone they have a CHOICE over what to do next is the whole pro-choice part of the matter.

    How many times do you think Americans of child bearing age have sex every year? 40 - 50 million times would be conservative. So given that
    contraceptions fails about 1 - 3% of the time, it doesn't take a genius to figure out where the approx. 600,000 abortions a year come from.
    And liberals have been trying to get contraception more available to the poor for decades now - so your whole "fight actual contraception" line
    is complete bull crap.

    Going to rate your post a complete fail.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would like proof of HOW many abortions come from a condom or birth control pill failing. I don't believe your numbers! Many people believe in "DA PULL OUT METHOD", which has a HUGE failure rate.

    I've used condoms many times through out my lifetime of all sizes (too big, too small, just right), and they have NEVER broken. Do these people have penises made out of knives and the vaginas have teeth? Gimmie a break. Stop making excuses for these people.
     
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    It's not an excuse - it's merely fact. Rhythm method, pull out method, condoms, pills - they all have failure rates, but they are all part of contraception. Some better than
    others. And don't forget, plenty of married couples get abortions because of failed contraception. It happens.

    Bottom line - while it's always better to use contraception, it's not fool-proof (and yes, some kids don't know how to use it properly cause their parents
    freaked out about schools teaching the kids how to use them properly). The reasons for abortion are as varied as the women who get them. Health issues.
    Age issues. Rape issues. Timing issues. Financial issues. Combinations of the above.

    No excuses. Just reality.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Soooo, numbers? I don't think most abortions are from failed birth control. I think they are from NO birth control.
     
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    Sorry, but you're wrong. No one is allowed to commit murder. Out of curiosity though, what is wrong with these people switching to a form of birth control other than murder? Why are you against these people deciding what they want to do with their own bodies in order to prevent pregnancies?
     
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    Because, science! Sometimes, when super excited, porcupine spikes come out of the penis and break the condom.
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    With the number of child bearing age women on the pill, I'm going to say you're probably wrong (the pill has a 3% failure rate). Even Trojan lists a
    failure rate of PROPERLY used condoms at 1.5%.

    Again. Not excuses. Just reality.
     
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    Who said they couldn't? Pro-choice. Get it?
     
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    I must say I'm having a hard time finding the numbers.

    I did find this excerpt:

    Results: Of all the women interviewed, 93% claimed to have adequate knowledge of contraception. At the time of conception 11.5% used safe methods (OCs 8%, IUDs 3.5%), 63% used less safe methods, and 26% were without contraception. Only 25% of the pill users had no explanation for the failure. 76.7% of the condom users reported that the condom was broken, had slipped off or its use had been irregular. The concern about side effects was the most common reason for not using safe contraceptives (25%).

    It is very weird that they don't say what the 63% refers to.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8533567/
     
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    I'm not, they are two different things.
     
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    And we can't forget the approx. 16 million women who have been diagnosed with Manic Depression. A manic person tends to have a higher
    sex drive and a lower grasp of consequences of their actions during a manic episode. And such people cannot take their meds when pregnant
    due to adverse side effects on the embryo - so forcing such people to carry to term is a crime in itself.

    We just can't fit every abortion into the "she's just a tramp" category. Too many variables. Every woman's needs, fears, mental capacity and
    physical capability to carry a
    child is different. Hence, again, freedom of choice.
     
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    pro choice is pro murder
     
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    And a choice you will never, ever have to deal with. You are a back seat driver who doesn't even own a car.
     
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    I'll be honest. I've had a healthy sex life in the past but at most I've never had sex that many times each year.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    What would cause you to change your mind?
     
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    Slacker. :smile:
     
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    Nothing, pro murder means your in favor of every time a woman gets pregnant she should have an abortion, no one thinks that.
     
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    Women should not be allowed to justify murder.
     
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    Men justify murder all the time. War. Police actions. Pollution deaths. Stand your ground ...
     
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    For me, A convincing argument.
    Ill be against abortion with UHC in effect, or if we can safely evict the fetus without its death.
     
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