Why are cons ALWAYS on the wrong side of history?

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and the Biden's WH has confirmed that if you do not share the view of the majority that you are a dangerous extremist. Does the WH agree that the nation is badly off track or are they dangerous extremists?
     
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    Only Cybred, I think. He, as usual, is incorrect. What he calls conservative policies are just government policies shared by both sides. I don't know any conservatives who would want government managing their money. I don't know any liberals that would want it either but I don't live in a progressive place so the liberals here haven't gone off the edge.
     
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    I like your logical deduction. So well said.
     
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  4. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think income inequality is one of the highest drivers of destroying prosperity — especially when it is a handful of people vacuuming up massive amounts of wealth. The middle class is shouldering the burden for the poor and the super wealthy.
     
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    Income inequality can be healthy and good for society. I grew up poor and saw other families living in homes with a pool, driving nice cars, wearing nice clothes, and having fun toys. That made me ambitious. I learned skills that made an hour of my time worth more pay.

    When government places their thumb on the scale and tries to "fix" things, they end up making it worse. I live in Los Angeles and I think we lead the nation in income inequality. (Or at least rank with the highest) There are few left in the middle.

    The quickest and easiest way to get rich is support a candidate and get a no-bid government contract in return. I believe this is the root of the problem.
     
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  6. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Income inequality is going to exist — and isn’t inherently bad — the issue becomes when an entity becomes so large that no one can compete. Look at Amazon and Walmart, both have been shown to have closed thousands of small businesses.

    The top 3 people in the nation now hold more wealth than the bottom 50%. How is that sustainable? At what percentage do you think the government should involve itself?
     
  7. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Amazon and Walmart wield tremendous political power. Small businesses don't have a $10,660,000.00 lobbying budget. Even those small businesses that held on couldn't survive Covid. Walmart was exempt from the shutdowns.

    To answer your question, government involvement should be limited to a minimum to ensure a safe work environment. All contact between politicians and lobbyists need to be live streamed and recorded. No government employee should ever receive benefits uncommon in the private sector. (For starters)
     
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    I would think its self evident.
     
  9. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You didn’t answer the question
     
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    And coming from a pretty small town, those small businesses here had it coming! No competition, made tyrants of those so called "Home town businesses".. Walmart simply made things competitive and those small businesses that folded, got what they deserved!

    Bottom like here is big box stored put more money in the pocket of the consumers and keeps other hometown businesses honest!
     
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    They aren't Democrats are. Democrats seceded from the union. Democrats wanted to preserve slavery, Democrats promoted him crow laws, Democrats created the KKK, Democrats supported segregation. Our current president supported imprisoning more black people.

    Why do Democrats desperately try and blame their legacy of bigotry and hatred on everyone else. Do they think they are fooling anybody?
     
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    In America, we have our own autocrat. He is a former President, and, while President he led a coup attempt to overthrow our elected government. Defeated by seven million votes, he still insists he won the election. Countless Republicans agree with him. His coup failed, and when he left office, he thought it appropriate to remove hundreds of pages of classified documents and take them home with him. The Republican Party strongly supports this former President, and he is the leader of that party. He is the leading Republican for President again in 2024.

    What is wrong with this picture?

    The Times reports, "A top Justice Department official told former President Donald J. Trump’s lawyers in recent weeks that the department believed he had not returned all the documents he took when he left the White House

    "The outreach from Jay I. Bratt, who leads the department’s counterintelligence operations, is the most concrete indication yet that investigators remain skeptical that Mr. Trump has been fully cooperative in their efforts to recover documents the former president was supposed to have turned over to the National Archives at the end of his term.

    "It is not clear what steps the Justice Department might take to retrieve any material it thinks Mr. Trump still holds.

    "And it is not known whether the Justice Department has gathered new evidence that Mr. Trump has held onto government material even after the court-authorized search in August of his private club and residence in Florida, Mar-a-Lago, and 18 months of previous efforts by the federal government to convince the former president to return what he had taken."

    Why is the DOJ *****footing around? Is this going to go on for a few years? They have enough evidence to charge Trump with several crimes. The DOJ should simply indict the S.O.B. and haul him before a judge.

    Americans are quite weary of this man playing games with the system while threatening our democracy, and the feds do nothing.

    This man who was elected President with the help of the Russian dictator is making the federal government look like a bunch of fools.

    "The Justice Department declined to comment," the Times.

    As is their custom. Trump Republicans will remain silent on the issues.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can change the word Democrat to “southern religious conservative” and everything you wrote remains accurate. Odd how those two are almost polar opposites but one side still holds on to it.

    When’s the last time you saw a confederacy flag at a left event? The accusation you are marking is cute though. Especially the “who do they think they are fooling” bit lol.
     
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  14. Dayton3

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    Easy.

    We aren't..
     
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    No it wouldn't. These weren't conservatives you'd have to first know what conservative means and it's not just people you don't like.

    Conservative is conservative with government meaning smaller government in order to have an apparatus to oversee slavery would require big government that's why they were Democrats.

    If you look at campaign platforms they were very Democrat the ku Klux Klan even today is socialist. Got short of fascism and communism is about the farthest thing you can get from conservatism possible.
    flags aren't racist people are. Every left event in history has been racist that's the point of them.
    It's accurate too and I can tell by the condescending tone sad thing is you know it.

    Sorry to break it to you slavery is big government that's left wing.
     
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    This is the funniest post I've read here in ages. Thanks for the belly laugh!
     
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    Fantastic that you think this is the goal of the Other Side, when it's the absolute foundation of the Progressive Left. The Other Side are libertarians dude. They believe in private property, enterprise, mom & dad investors, meritocracy, self-reliance, etc etc. All the things that allowed the common man to escape serfdom.

    Progressives want to end all those things, and put us into life-renting serfdom - spending our lives in dependent consumerism, funnelling all our wealth upwards. And who do you think is driving us to that? It's the freaking 1% .. who are on the LEFT now. They've been Lefties for years, but I guess whatever time warp you're stuck in doesn't know it's not 1995 anymore.
     
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    Well said. Wanting change for change's sake, is the 'outburst of the privileged and/or bored'. It never comes from rational, long-term planning and consideration. For that, you need genuine compassion for the lot of humanity.
     
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    So why do you (GY who disapprove) keep buying from them?
     
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    More propaganda. Sad.

    Do you have any real facts? Of course not because the real facts prove you wrong.
     
  21. cd8ed

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    It’s cute you think conservatism means small government when y’all want it to be big enough to control reproductive function in women — y’all want small federal government so the states can impose their twisted religious values on the citizenry which is why the southern states wanted to leave the nation.

    Interesting revisionist history but it doesn’t line up with any historical references I have ever read.

    It’s fascinating to say the same people that want healthcare to be affordable and accessible to all are the same people that burned crosses in peoples yards while preaching the Bible but the people that are today preaching the Bible and flying the same flag while screaming states rights isn’t.

    Ain’t it?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love when someone comments about facts as they provide zero while calling a dozen sources “propaganda”. Jesus, Facebook and fox have done a number on this country.
     
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    It's the primary feature - not a bug - of the CONservative grift... 1584414804.9904-smiley.gif
     
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    CONservative racists seceded from the union. CONservative racists wanted to preserve slavery, CONservative racists promoted Jim Crow laws, CONservative racists created the KKK, CONservative racists supported segregation, CONservative racists lynched ethnic minorities - primarily blacks - by the thousands. Our previous president (TREASONOUS LOSER) was actually sued by the DOJ for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Tramp had refused to rent to Black tenants and lied to Black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. CONservative racists support the modern GQP.

    Why do CONservative racists desperately try and blame their legacy of bigotry and hatred on everyone else? Do they think they are fooling anybody? 265Vp.gif

    Wake up and smell the revisionist bullshit-bs-smiley-emoticon.gif you're shoveling...

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    Until around the 1990's, the tv was called the "boob tube" (and not those boobs), and it was common to hear "it will rot your brain". Instead of watching tv all the time - or staring at You Tube and FaceBook and TikTok - we read books and studied and had hobbies that developed skills.

    I think thats why so many people under 30 are so simple minded and gullible.
     

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