So When Do REPUBS IMPEACH BIDEN?

I am praying for 3 impeachments, a government shutdown and no bills passed. I am sick of morons with power using my money to accelerate inflation. 2023 currently is looking to be much much rougher on the American people than 2022. Divided power may be our savior.

 

Nope.

SEC. 3. PURPOSES.

Consistent with the functions described in section 4, the purposes of the Select Committee are the following:

(1) To investigate and report upon the facts, circumstances, and causes relating to the January 6, 2021, domestic terrorist attack upon the United States Capitol Complex (hereafter referred to as the “domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol”) and relating to the interference with the peaceful transfer of power, including facts and causes relating to the preparedness and response of the United States Capitol Police and other Federal, State, and local law enforcement agencies in the National Capital Region and other instrumentalities of government, as well as the influencing factors that fomented such an attack on American representative democracy while engaged in a constitutional process.

(2) To examine and evaluate evidence developed by relevant Federal, State, and local governmental agencies regarding the facts and circumstances surrounding the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol and targeted violence and domestic terrorism relevant to such terrorist attack.
https://january6th.house.gov/about

(3) To build upon the investigations of other entities and avoid unnecessary duplication of efforts by reviewing the investigations, findings, conclusions, and recommendations of other executive branch, congressional, or independent bipartisan or nonpartisan commission investigations into the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol, including investigations into influencing factors related to such attack.

 

You didn't watch the video?



Jordan is disgusting. I'd like to match him up with Ilhan Omar and put them on a desert island far from this country.

 

You attempt to refute my description of the committee's purpose with their marquee announcement of their purpose??? Really? Did you ever hear a bank robber anounce to the public that he intebds to rob a bank?

 

!. Is clearly spelled out in the Constitution. It is called the separation of independent powers (the three branches). The president has no authority to do squat at the Capitol. Hell, he can't even deliver the state of the union address without an invitation. There would probably be acceptable exceptions in times of war.

2. and 3. Common public knowledge that was never refuted in any committee testimony or information other than I would guess there was debate over some trivial pissant details.

4. I don't know if Trump personally called Pelosi or vice versa. There were three of four others who could have responded to Pelosi's request. Whether the Guard's response was immediate or it took 25 minutes.or 2 hours or 4hours or whatever to physically respond is one of those trivial pissant details I talked about.

 

DiSabato is your source? The guy with a history of legal disputes with Ohio State over the last 20 years?
The same DiSabato that joined a class action suit against OSU over Athlete images?
Nobody buys into his BS. He's aloud mouth punk looking for free money.
Every compnay he has founded has been locked up in legal problems

Out of the actual five accusers — four have spoken to NBC News and all said they respect Jordan and several described him as a friend. One of them, Shawn Dailey, who said he donated to Jordan's first political campaign for state representative.

YOU claimed

And out of now 7 attempts to get you to provide this video, this is all you got?

 

Translation: you have no evidence of this; i.e., it is nothing more than your & Bluesguy's assumption. The fact that the head of one of the 3 main divisions of our government, must get permission from the top-ranking official of another branch, to come and speak to a joint session of Congress, is not proof that Pelosi is also in charge of Capitol security. That seems, in fact, a ridiculous conclusion, to draw (does the President also need the Speaker's permission to walk on Capitol property?).

But if the Constitution says that "the speaker of the House is responsible for, & in charge of, Capitol security," then all you need do is quote that passage, from that very short document-- why do you need me to explain this to you? Without this, your reply is only so much hot air, trying to justify an idea, not based in fact.

= No evidence, to support your narrative.

= No evidence, to support your rendition of events.


It is laughable, looking at your 0 for 4 record of supporting your claims, that you would question the integrity of the J6 Committee, and their presentation of events, which was so heavily laden with supporting evidence. Not to say that everything mentioned in the hearing was proven beyond reasonable doubt-- that would be the purpose of a trial prosecution, not of this Committee. The basic contours, of the events leading up to, during, and following the attack on the Capitol, however, showing a clear plan-- the design of the then President, Trump-- had been demonstrated to an exponentially greater degree, than any one of your own contentions. (I am not using the word "exponentially," literally; because any exponent, of the quantity "0," no matter how many times one multiplies "nothing" by itself, would still equal nothing, and the Committee produced a wealth of corroboration, for its account of the unfolding of this event).

 

Let me begin with saying that you are not the only one, on the Right, who feels this way, about impeachments of Biden. Here are a couple of other PF voices, which concur with you:

Note that neither you, nor Xyce, provide any reason for impeaching Biden, other than as payback for Trump, to stick it to the Democrats. While Popscott comes up with some pretexts, after his giggling at the thought of exceeding the number of Trump's impeachments, with Biden-- his excuses are ridiculous.

This, then, is a debate within the Republican ranks, which had been my main focus, with this thread-- so thank you for focusing much more squarely on the topic, than many of the other replies have done. Not all Republicans, agree with your perspective, though, for many realize not only the pointlessness of such an exercise, but that this waste of time & effort, will do little to encourage anyone who is not already rabidly pro-Trump and/or anti-Democrat, to vote for them, in 2024.

Compare your vision of a House that does nothing, other than petty, partisan gamesmanship, with the House under Pelosi which, beside impeaching Trump, managed to pass over a hundred bills, showing their own priorities, and putting their stances on issues, on paper, & with the potential force of law, if any had been passed by the Senate. Under McConnell, however, none of the House bills were even taken up, for consideration. But the Dems were showing what they stood for, and what they would do for the country, if voters gave them the opportunity, by putting the Senate in their hands; which, by the way, the people did do, in the 2020 election. So, you are "praying," that the example Republicans give to voters of what they're all about, is a bunch of retributive witch hunts? An unconventional strategy, certainly.


I also wonder why you would think that our country's defaulting on its Debt obligations, would make things any easier on the American people; to the contrary, this would be shooting ourselves in the foot, and would end up, in the long term, costing our nation dearly, in multiple ways. In case you had not been thinking that you had been advocating this, it is implied that the only reason for a government shutdown, would be an impasse, between the House and the President (& Senate), on the budget. It would come, only if Republicans were unwilling to compromise, in their demands, to avoid what the Dems would desperately want to avoid; that is, the Dems would not allow this to occur, over any concessions other than those which they saw, themselves, to be majorly problematic for the country. And once the government's funding, in the absence of a budget agreement, runs out, it would, as always, only be a matter of time before we reached the point of not being able to make good on our Debt instruments. So, why would Republicans want to wait until this eleventh hour-- with not only all its risk, but demonstration of dysfunction in our government-- if they could reach an agreement without shutting down the government?

IOW, at that point, there are likely only two possible outcomes: either the Repubs will have to back down from whatever hardline stance had caused the shutdown, and then agree to the compromise that they had rejected, before subjecting the country to all the inconveniences, incumbent with the cessation of government services (which will make them look weak, & incompetent); or, without compromise, we will default (which has, thankfully, never yet come to pass, but why continue playing with fire?).


So, it seems to me, that you are praying that the new Republican House majority, demonstrate that they believe they were voted into office, to create chaos, gridlock, and government dysfunction. The only bright side, should your prayer be answered, would be that this would almost assuredly guarantee, in 2024, the people putting all the levers of government, firmly into the hands of the Democratic Party.

 

Reasons to impeach:
1. Unconstitutional use of EPA to force companies to vaccinate employees.
2. Accepting bribes from China/Russia as proven by Hunter's laptop.
3. Scrubbing taxpayer money via FTX-Ukraine to fund Democrats in biggest Ponzi scheme in American history.
4. Pedophilic showering with teenage daughter as proven by her own diary.
5. Colluding with big tech to censor his political opponents as proven by released documents.
6. Clear signs of moderate to advanced dementia. May not be impeachable but clearly warrants removal from office.
7. Racist executive orders with regards to monoclonal antibodies distribution.

Could come up with another six or more if I thought about it. This is the most openly corrupt administration in history and no other administration comes close. It is also the most deranged and incompetent.

 

Oh, you want more?

 

How about ANY
Still can't produce the videos where he's covering up for perverts at Ohio State?
Thats what I thought

 

Have you not followed what happened prior to on Jan 6 at all?

1. THE SOTH is the top official, being third in line for the Presidency, in the legislative branch and the Capital. She ID in charge of everything including security. The buck stops with her. The Chief of the Capital police has given testimony he requested that the extra security be approved by LEADERSHIP so he could submit the required request for NG troops. Those request were turn down by leadership he was told by his boss the Sargent at Arms. Turned down after the repeated urgings by DOJ, FBI, HSA and the President. The mayor of DC also turned down the offers for the additional help beyond the 300 unarmed NG for traffick control offsite. She even sent a formal letter the day before instructing the SecArmy to NOT send any additional NG troops.

2. Trump told the SecArmy he had his full approval to meet any request folding the Capital and the city ASAP even his approval is not require nor necessary to deploy troops after such a request.

3. See above

4. Pelosi did not contact the WH the Cheif of the capital police FINALLY got approval to make the request and that request was FINALLY made at around 1:30pm. The mayor also submitted a request at about that time.

There was no delay after that point the SecArmy acted on the request and the process to call the troops in, get them equipted and transported to the Capital began.

The question remains why were those initial urgings and request for the additional security, security which the Chief said would have prevent any breeches in the perimiter and the building itself.

If the purpose of the committee is to determine why a peaceful protest turned into a riot INSIDE the capital THAT is what needs to he investigated

 

My goodness. You want still more...?

 

It is my and @Bluesguy 's assumption just like we assume horses don't climb trees. Do you think the sun rises in the east? Show me the evidence.

 

I, for one constitutional. conservative (Right if you will), do not think Biden has committed any impeachable offenses. Although if one accepts the extremely low bar for impeachment that Pelosi set, which I personally don't, Biden could certainly be impeached.

 

Who is in charge at the Capital then?
Try actually refuting what is posted.

 

Fear not... there may well be investigation to honest and thorough look into the last 2 years of the Biden administration...

Biden has more than met the bar on impeachment on many areas in his phuster cluck administration..

Just one example

The treasonous act of abandoning an airbase, which resulted the release of 1500 terrorists from 2 prisons there, which resulted in one of those critters killing 13 American solders in a suicide bombing.
https://www.breitbart.com/national-...-was-released-from-prison-abandoned-by-biden/
https://tinyurl.com/m3dbhm2c
https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...agram-after-biden-abandoned-it-pentagon-says/

The treasonous act of aiding and abetting our enemies by handing them a hit list of Americans and allies as we were about to abandon and leave those people behind enemy lines..
https://www.gop.gov/joe-biden-aband...istan-he-has-failed-us-as-commander-in-chief/
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-talibans-job-easier-biden-list-americans-afghanistan

The treasonous act of deserting those Americans and allies behind enemy lines... requiring private American citizens to go in and rescue them....
Operation Pineapple Express
https://www.foxnews.com/media/scott-mann-patriot-awards-winner-fox-nation-afghanistan-rescue-mission
Project dynamo
https://www.projectdynamo.org/proje...u-s-lprs-from-taliban-controlled-afghanistan/

The treasonous act of aiding and abetting our enemy by abandoning the US's most sophisticated military equipment that could very well be turned around and used on American forces... Plus the simple FACT that the Chinese and Russian will have access to that very equipment to evaluate and create work arounds to our most sophisticated weaponry..
( do you really need a link for this FACT?)

 

Absurd. The President is Commander of the DC National Guard. He acts through the Secretary of Defense. As well, the President can call upon the DC Metro Police by acting through the DC Mayor. There is no requirement to consult with the House Speaker.

The buck stops with the President. It's not clear how, or perhaps how long, laws restraining the President could prevent him from assuming effective command of the DC National Guard.

At the very least, Trump deserted his post for three hours on 1/6. He could have been acting during those three hours.

If others in charge day-to-day are acting ineffectively, it's all the more reason the President should have been better prepared. He or she is responsible for protecting this country as head of the Executive Branch.

Translation: "You can defend the Capitol if they ask for help, but you can't go ahead without a request." As I said, Trump deserted his post for at least three hours.

None of this relieves Trump of his ultimate responsibility.

Finger-pointing Alert!

The buck stops with Trump. He did not adequately prepare, and he failed to act when we know he knew there was a riot at the Capitol.

The most important need is for us to prevent it from happening again. Trump is gone and is unlikely to be win the Presidency.

 

Not for DOMESTIC LAW ENFORCEMENT. The President cannot send the US Military into a domestics law enforcement action. Onky the local authorities can make such a request and it goes to the SecArmy who approves it. That pesky constitution and posse comatatus thingy. In order to have had this troops on the streets and at the Capital the request had to come from the Capital and the city.

Nope and never headed his way.

He had no post or role in the matter. It was for the Capital Hill leadership to approve a request from the Chief of CP for there and the Mayor for the streets. They finally submitted them but only after the Capital had been breeches and it was too late.

He had been prepared says earlier when he and the FBI AND DOJ AND HSA where strongly urging them to get their formal request in so the troops could be deployed.

Yes the President has no role in the matter

Nope. Nothing he could do it was a domestic law enforcement action. Go learn some civics and read the actually timeline of events.

 

This is 100% inane crap, not to mention 110% wrong.

 

"Shoring up" Medicare and Social Security is a euphemism for cutting benefits. I happen to think it's a conversation we need to have as a nation. Maybe apply some means testing to the programs. But for Scalise to claim what the Dems are saying is a red herring is a lie.

 

It's right. You're wrong.

Muir asks Pence why Trump didn't make calls during 1/6 riot: 'Good question for him,' Pence says
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/muir-asks-pence-trump-make-calls-16-riot/story?id=93229066

 

Yeah, and horses climb trees.

 

You are welcome to support your position with something besides vacuous claims.

 

"There is no requirement to consult with the House Speaker." So why did they have to get Nancy's OK while she was still on the House floor on Jan 6 then?