Majority Say Republican-Led House Should Investigate Hunter Biden, End January 6 Committee

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    ????? I dont think Ive gotten ANY information from TV regarding Hunter, only on the internet. So cant imagine what point you are trying to make regarding streaming vs Cable TV. Do you??? The design was in dozens of former intelligence officials writing their letter that both cable tv and big tech adopted as gospel truth. In the FBI approaching big tech BEFORE Hunters laptop became public encouraging them to censor publication of it. And cable TV and mainstream media in unison proclaiming that its a "Russian disinformation campaign", even though the intelligence officials said it was instead a "Russian INFORMATION campaign", not disinformation. ALL by design to ensure that the Hunter Laptop story was only in the realm of "RW conspiracy" sites. They had an election of Joe Biden coming up they needed to ensure.
     
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    LOLOLOL!!!! The Hunter laptop has now debunked both the USA Today story AND the Trump impeachment.

    And from USA Today=
    "Based on our research, the claim that Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion from Ukraine to save his son's job is FALSE. "

    Thats from some meme on the internet. Firing the prosecutor wasnt to save Hunters Job. It was his job, "the ultimate purpose to close down for any cases/pursuits against Nikolay in Ukraine."
    Thats what Hunter was hired to do. Lobbying the US government to pressure Ukraine to "close down" any cases against Burisma and Nikolay.
    You should probably stick with labeling Hunters emails as "fake news".
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    From USA today article

    Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin to be removed, per the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, an independent agency that has worked closely with the FBI.

    Hunters email proves Burisma and its owner was concerned enough about the open case to hire Hunter to lobby to get the case closed.
    AND the FBI is who held covered up Hunters Laptop as Trump was being impeached over Ukraine for what Biden was ACTUALLY guilty of. Trump wanted an investigation to rid Ukraine of corruption for the benefit of both the US and Ukraine. Biden wanted a Prosecutor fired and his investigation to be closed TO THE DETRIMENT of both Ukraine and the US, and for the benefit of lining his and Hunters pocket. Witholding aid in Trumps case would be a good thing, to serve the interest of the US. Witholding aid to line your pockets is government corruption.

    And as far as the "independent agency"


    Ukrainian media has repeatedly published information about the connections, interventions and influence on the activities of NABU of the US Embassy in Ukraine.[23][24][25]

    In October 2019, Ukrainian MP and graduate of the KGB school Andrii Derkach published documents about the possible influence of the US Embassy in Ukraine on the activities of NABU. Among the published materials were correspondence between Polina Chyzh, the assistant to the first deputy head of NABU Gizo Uglava, and Hanna Emelyanova, the specialist on legal issues of the anti-corruption program of the US Department of Justice of the US Embassy in Ukraine. According to Derkach, this correspondence contained lists of criminal cases on which NABU detectives worked, as well as instructions on providing information on the case of former Minister of Environmental Protection and owner of Burisma Mykola Zlochevsky. According to Derkach, American politician Joe Biden influenced the Ukrainian authorities and helped to close criminal cases related to the activities of former Minister Mykola Zlochevsky.[26]
    National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine - Wikipedia

    This is all a part of Hillarys State Department operation in Ukraine to bring about the Maidan protests and change of government and maintain control of the government in its place. What a clusterf@%k this has turned out to be.
    Imagine if the Democrats, Media, Big Tech and the FBI had not gone to such great lengths to stop Trump from ridding Ukraine of this foreign corruption that serves only the interest of lining the pockets of foreigners, instead of the interests of Ukraine. And they instead had been left to serve their own interests, things might have worked out much more favorably.
     
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    The point is and has been, Hunter story is a nothinburger. It's fake news by RW nutheads on tv and radio.
    How many times does it have to be posted.
     
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    And the people that have been in prison and denied their sixth amendment rights care too.
     
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    Impeach the President! Let’s go Brandon!
     
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    The copy of Hunters emails isnt right wing news, and coverage by the right wing news doesnt make it fake.

    From Ukrainian news

    In March 2014, the UK and Northern Ireland Serious Fraud Bureau launched an investigation into the Zlochevsky criminal case, suspecting him of laundering $35 million. At the same time, Zlochevsky, according to Ukrainian investigators and journalists, contacted U.S. Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State John Kerry and suggested they share the profits of the Ukrainian gas producer Burisma Group.
    MP Andriy Derkach: 'NABU Leaks' is the key for salvaging Ukraine-U.S. relations (interfax.com.ua)

    Devon Archer, Kerry's bag man CC on Hunters email

    From Ukrainian Media regarding emails between Ukrainian Government and the US DOJ

    According to him, NABU employee Polina Chizh received an instruction from an employee of the US Embassy Anna Emelyanova to provide information in the case of former Minister of Ecology and Burisma Group owner Mykola Zlochevskyi. The MP also released the amount of money that was transferred to Burisma Group representatives, including Hunter Biden.
    The court ordered the SBI to investigate the "leakage" of secret information by the NABU leadership at the request of Shokin (interfax.com.ua)

    So our DOJ has the information that details how much Hunter and Joe were paid by Burisma that they hid while the impeached Trump, alleging he had done what Joe is guilty of doing.

    Derkach released the amount of funds transferred to Burisma Group representatives, including Joe and Hunter Biden. Former US Vice President Joe Biden allegedly received $ 900 thousand for lobbying activities at Burisma, and his son received more than $ 16 million.
    According to the politician, Joe Biden used influence on the Ukrainian authorities and helped close criminal cases related to the activities of the former Minister of Ecology of Ukraine Mykola Zlochevskyi.
    Deputy Derkach released documents on the alleged influence of the US Embassy on the activities of the NABU (hromadske.ua)
     
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    Id encourage anyone genuinely interested in learning about Hunter and Ukraine to read through the linked Ukrainian sources 23 -27 at the bottom of the Wikipedia page.
    National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine - Wikipedia
    My browser offers up a Translate to English option I assume others will

    As an American I am ashamed what we did in Ukraine and how it has turned out.
     
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    Much ado about nothing, debunked, No "there", there, etc...
    Definition of Tinfoil Hat Stuff...
     
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    Is that post a joke?

    NOTE: I will never vote for Hunter for president or any office I can vote for.
    What is your point? He isn't electable? I agree.
     
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    What has been debunked? Usually what is in Hunters laptop is instead ignored because they cant debunk anything.
     
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    Hunters guilty of FARA violations and failing to pay gift tax. Joe is actually guilty of what they tried to impeach Trump over. I know, laws dont apply when its the Democrats.
     
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    It isn't about voting for Hunter. It was influence pedaling and the only influence he had worth buying was his Dad's.
     
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    What bribe are you referring to?
    Post the data.
     
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    You're saying he got a job because he knew someone? In gov't? And the crime is?
    Has that never happened before or since?
     
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    What I find astounding is this National Anti-corruption Bureau of Ukraine, NABU, was imposed on Ukraine by Hillary's State Department. Independent from Ukraines regular Prosecutors in theory to stamp out government corruption in Ukraine who needs the virtuous Americans to guide them. Everything they did was shared with the US DOJ and FBI.
    One of the things they shared BEFORE Biden went to Ukraine to have the prosecutors investigating Burisma fired was in an email from First Deputy Head of the NABU Gizo Uglava Polina Chizh and Legal Affairs Specialist of the Anti-Corruption Program of the US Department of Justice of the US Embassy in Ukraine Anna Emelyanova detailing the amount of funds transferred to Burisma Group representatives, including Joe and Hunter Biden. Former US Vice President Joe Biden allegedly received $ 900 thousand for lobbying activities at Burisma, and his son received more than $ 16 million. ALSO that Zlochevsky, according to Ukrainian investigators and journalists, contacted U.S. Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State John Kerry and suggested they share the profits of the Ukrainian gas producer Burisma Group.
    So the US Justice Department and FBI has these results of Ukrainian anti corruption investigators work and a month later Joe is in Ukraine ensuring they get rid of the Prosecutor digging up all this above in Ukraine.
    And now we know from Hunters Invoice with Burisma that his job was "with the ultimate purpose to close down for any cases/pursuits against Nikolay in Ukraine."

    Shokin was supposed to only investigate Burisma corruption regarding their dealings with Ukraines Ecology Minister in gaining permits or licensing. NOT the efforts after the fact to weasel out of any prosecutions by influencing those making the decisions in government. Government corruption was present in Burismas dealings with the Ecology Minister. Government corruption was involved in the investigations of those dealings and government corruption closed those investigations and Hunter and Joe got paid for each level of corruption.
    This is how our State Department rolls. Like I said, as an American I am ashamed of what weve done to Ukraine.
    AND while Trump was being impeached for requesting Zelensky to investigate these matters, our FBI and Justice Department already had all the info above. The Deep State even under a Republican President sat on this information as the Impeachment of Trump for his call to Ukraine proceeded.
     
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    trump was essentially impeached for a form of bribery.
    Withholding money congress had earmarked for Ukraine, until the president of Ukraine would give him some information, real or made up.
    He got caught doing that and eventually gave the money Congress granted to Ukraine.
    And then got impeached for that stunt.
     
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    Getting hired because of your daddys name isnt the crime. That comes when your job is to lobby the US government "with the ultimate purpose to close down for any cases/pursuits against Nikolay in Ukraine"
     
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    No. He never said anything on the call about withholding aid. We have the transcript. Thats the part the Democrats made up. If I recall it was he wanted "ask you a favor" He wanted an investigation, no demand for information. And with hindsight we can see that Trumps request was in an attempt to rid Ukraine of very real and documented corruption. For the benefit of both Ukraine and the US handing out aid we dont want going to corrupt government. A legitimate goal. The Democrats pushed the theory that there was nothing there to investigate and that Trump wanted made up dirt on Biden purely for his own personal benefit in the upcoming election. Hunters laptop shows otherwise. Everything Trump alleges is documented in Hunters laptop.

    ON THE OTHER HAND, Biden explicitly threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor who was investigating Burismas corruption. That we have him on video. Threatening to withold aid is BIDENS characterization. Not for the benefit of Ukraine or the US. This was to their detriment. But instead to line the pockets of Joe and Hunter Biden. A corrupt purpose which makes it a crime.
     
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    I'm saying he got a job because it was a door to his father's influence.
     
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    And his fathers influence was needed to shut down a legitimate investigation of Burisma involvement in Ukranian Government corruption. Burisma lined the pockets of corrupt Ukrainian officials for the financial benefit of Burisma, and then lined the pockets of corrupt American officials to avoid accountability for their involvement in Ukranian government corruption.
    ALL under Hillary's State Department created National Anti-corruption Bureau of Ukraine with direct line to the DOJ and FBI. The level of hypocrisy is off the charts.
     
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    I'm sure that made sense to you (and the two that liked it), but the rest of us haven't got a clue of what you were going for.
     
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    For future Americans, no matter how this Ukraine war turns out, I hope the history books include an accounting that begins with the Hillary Clinton State Department involvement in Ukraine. Lessons from the past in foreign relations to better conduct those relations in the future.
     
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    doesn't sound like you were able to understand it
     

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