Capitalism is economic tyranny Socialism is economic democracy.

Alright but the government can't tax what I don't earn over 2m. And by stopping my operations when I reached that threshold the government loses revenue from other earners as well.

 

That graph of income inequality could easily be titled "lazy bum population versus motivated achiever population".

 

The final days of the Soviet Union said it all. All farm produce was the property of the government. Farm workers got paid a set wage whether they worked hard or not. People starved. So the government gave %5 of the land to the farmers for their own use. That 5% soon outproduced the other 95% and the farmers thrived with the land they used for their on profit. The other 95% barely produced at all... as it had been before. Socialism just doesn't work.

 

If I'm not mistaken there's no law against anyone paying more on their taxes than required. How many people advocating higher taxes actually gave 90% of their income to the government voluntarily?

 

The soviet union never had capitalism the Russian empire had serfdom and then went straight into communism, which performed better during the great depression than the west. The reason communism/socialism didn't work in the USSR was that they abandoned their policy of supporting and modernizing the 100 plus different ethnic cultures. They were to focused on having a central identity and that made them collapse. As well as the totalitarian rule of Stalin.

The farmers should have been given the right to earn money from the food they produced but with limits, price of food should have been set by the government but those profits should have gone to the farmers, vs giving the farmers private land or forcing quotas. You need to give people financial freedom within the constraints of controlling prices so that people can't outprice necessities. It prevents inflation aka businesses upping how much of a profit margin they make year after year.

 

Paying people a set wage for their work rather rewarding excellence always ends upin failure as my example proves. hen people were paid a set wage, production remained so low that people starved. But when 5% of the land was given to the farmers for their own use, that 5% outproduced the other 95%. that's why capitalism WORKS. It has nothing to do with "ethnic cultures"... it has to to do with basic human motivation.

 

If you pay people by the hour to do a job opposed to paying for the job itself you'll find most people will take their time doing the job. It's called job security, to take your time, in some circles. Productivity usually suffers when you take away incentives to produce.

 

No, you can voluntarily give the government more money. You can do it by leaving off the legitimate deductions you have, if you choose to do that, but I think that you can actually write a check to the government if you so chose.

 

You can pay based on output while also setting how much the item can cost. I agree paying farmers by the hour was dumb.

 

Interesting comment. When I was a young Captain, I found myself working in an office in TRADOC. the office was about half DAC's - Dept of the Army Civilians) and half uniforms. The GS-14 civilian boss came up to me and told me to slow my guys down. They were doing too much to fast and making his civilians look bad. He said that if the civilians worked so fast that CBO (Congressional Budget Office) would declare them overstaffed and make personnel cuts. He said that we would do our three years in the office and move on to our next assignment but that his folks wouldn't. I wasn't exactly sure how to respond to him... so I essentially ignored him.

 

I actually had that experience when I started working in a union factory. My previous experience was to do a job as quickly and efficiently as possible. In this union job I was given an assignment and left to myself. When a coworker came around four hours later he chewed me out. Why? Because I produced more in four hours than others would produce in 12 hours. He told me to just stop working the rest of the day and hide. True story.

 

Yea, I heard you can actually donate to the government. But I haven't heard of any of these rich democrats doing that. Instead, they take full advantage of the loopholes they put into the tax laws.

 

Obviously you don't understand at all. Do you really think most people will not want to reward achievement and innovation?

 

No. Many people are perfectly happy to collect welfare, sleep on the couch watching TV and smoke dope.

 

If you believe that is true, REPORT MY POST!

Of course they won't. I don't understand why you think I would believe otherwise.

So now you attack ME. And you continue to spew bullshit opinions and judgements instead of arguing facts and evidence of facts. Don't you have ANY views on the subject?

 

when democrats start imploding upon themselves, that is when one knows one has done ones job. lol

 

WHERE did you get that first graph?!! I spent a good part of one afternoon looking for one like that earlier this week!

 

It is sometimes necessary, contrary to the redistribution going on today which you want very much to ignore. WTF do you think this means.....

 

What part of "tax bracket" do you not understand?

 

You don't seem to understand the effect of the 90% tax bracket in the 1940s. Try studying THIS for an explanation.

 

Economic progressives should run under the GOP lol. Think about it if we all registered as republicans said all the right bullcrap on social issues we could turn the party into a socialist party because the GOP will vote party line.

Until its too late and they realize they've been played

 

Google graphs and looking for "income inequality".

 

Not if you wanted to keep your business!

Not if the law said you can move but your assets and your business and your capital equipment all stay here and the workers get to run the business as a workers' co-op.

 

A good CPA can put you in any tax bracket you want. Do work at home? On a computer? With a coffee pot nearby? DEPRECIATE IT ALL! Use your car for work? DEDUCT! (And depreciate the space you park it in... in the driveway)... the deductions and depreciation are endless if you know what you are doing... everyone should have a side business... for deductible LOSSES!
All you need is a good CPA! (My wife is a tax attorney/EA/CPA)...

 

"Income inequality" is dependent on the "Lazy Bum vs Achiever" ratio