Let's terminate the Constitution!!

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  1. dairyair

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    Then you have to be dismissed.
    Suspicion is easy, 2+ yrs, and you won't provide proof. Means you need to be dismissed on massive fraud.

    I don't pretend. I want evidence. Russia is just you deflecting. I have not brought up Russia nor will I ever. Stay on topic. Provide evidence of stop promoting the big lie.
     
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    Didn't have to be positive. But little was negative.
    It was, supposedly, anti establishment. That's what voters want. But sadly, trump was entirely wrong. As he isn't a leader. Narcissits rarely can lead, effectively.
    Cult leaders, sure. But America is not a cult.
     
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    I agree. What I meant was he has little chance unless something changes in the political climate that would favor him.
     
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    First of all he never said we should terminate the constitution in its entirety and I could point to plenty of democrats who have made calls to terminate the second. As far as a recent example I would point to Biden’s attempt to forgive college loans. That requires the action of the purse and under the constitution the house has the power of the purse, not the president.
     
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    This is the quote from his account…

    “A Massive Fraud of this type and
    magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.”

    He did call for termination of all rules, regulations, and articles in the constitution did he not?
     
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    The Establishment has rendered the Constitution utterly meaningless.

    That being the case, and since the entire Democratic Party, the leadership of the Republican Party, and all of our Federal institutions are committed to seeing our Constitution ripped up...

    What options do those of us who want to live as free men have??

    These turns in history always boil down to armed conflict in some form. Revolution or Civil War...

    Unfortunately, those who support the imposition of serfdom far outnumber those of us who desire liberty.
     
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    There is no other reason for his extreme and unrelenting behavior.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't think being the victim of fraud is reason to be unrelenting? Mind you, this isn't a question of whether his belief is correct, but only whether its genuine.
     
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    You are right, he did not say that. But demanding that ANY part of the Constitution be terminated just because he is STILL butthurt over losing in 2020 is not only wrong, it is utterly insane. Making the argument that "well, he didnt say we should terminate ALL of the Constitution, so it's all good" is the weakest argument I have ever read. That said, it is your right to make that argument.

    I am, however, quite sure that had a Democrat of name or any Democrat for that matter had said the **** that Trump said, every Rightie in the USA would be swinging from the trees and screaming "treaaon" like banshees.

    So, spare me this nonsense, but more importantly, because you are obviously a smart guy, please spare yourself this nonsense.

    Also, not one single Democrat has ever called to terminate the Constitution. An EO from the President over student loans is NOT a termination of the Constitution. No cookie for you there.

    The Democrats are going to hang this around the entire GOP's neck all the way through 2024 and should Trump end up being the GOP nominee then he will lose by 17 points nationwide. I'm calling it right here, right now. Biden won by +4.5% in 2020 and surely Trump's latest insanity has moved at least 9% of the electorate away from the GOP. Factoring in some new digruntleds against Biden, a rematch ends with Biden 56.5, Trump 39.5, Libertarian 2%, others 1%.

    Of course, it would be difficult for Trump to run a campaign from the inside of a prison cell and orange jumpsuits would not show his best side, but here we are.

    It's time for REAL Conservatives to find their spines, because this stuff goes way beyond Party and deep down, you know it.
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Borderlines?

    If Trump came out against Jesus there would be 10000 Trumpers in St Peter's Square building crosses for the Pope tomorrow.
     
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    It doesn't matter if he wins or not. If he loses he is just going to pull the Capitol Siege again and this time he will have a cadre of mercenaries to back him instead of several thousand rednecks. If he's in jail we MAY be able to head that off, which is why he MUST be incarcerated.
     
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    So that's how you read it? That he called for all rules, regulations, and articles in the constitution? I thought the comma after articles meant something.

    Look, I'm just going by what he wrote; I'm not trying to fill in the gaps with my mind.
     
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    Trump is a democrat, posing as a republican. So yes, the democrats want to get rid of the constitution.
     
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    Not sure why you work so hard trying to defend / justify his demand to terminate the Constitution, but I fear there are many Trump apologists who will do exactly that.


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    Which two years out is meaningless. The minute DeSantis puts his hat in the ring he will be the odds on favorite. Note Trump can only win against a colorless opposition of Lincoln project graybeards. The only other person with an outside chance and one that I'm pretty sure will run is Cruz.
     
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    You're ignoring the fact that not everyone carelessly reads what Trump said in the same way you guys do. We're not defending what you are accusing him of saying. We're saying that's not the way we read what he said.
     
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    There will be 10-12 candidates, including Rand Paul, Rubio, Cruz, Haley and other usual suspects, all of whom are far more qualified than Constitution hating Trump. And then they'll have DeSantis from the populist / authoritarian camp.

    Yes, you are defending his demand to terminate the Constitution, and you do it by pretending his words don't mean what they clearly say.
     
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    As opposed to the Democrat authoritarians currently running things?
     
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    Nonsense. Assumes facts not in evidence. Learn to debate without making wild patently untrue statements.
     
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    Then learn to read with discernment.
     
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    Both-siding the issue is not helping you, for here there are not 2 sides. It's simply that loser Trump and his insanity.
     
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    No, I don't think Biden will run again, and I can't think it other qualified Dems, except maybe Manchin. I don't think he is authoritarian though. IMO 2024 will produce a GOP president, and I hope its a conservative one, and not someone like DeSantis. Ran Paul would be good. I think he would stay loyal to conservative principles while accepting compromise to get things done.
     
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    It's not like any of you care about evidence, after all, our former POTUS wanted two people ASSASSINATED because he was mad at them. That, by itself, is insane. Everything he's done since orchestrating that insurrection solidifies he is not only mentally unstable, but dangerously unfit for any role in elected government leadership.

    I know you all will be off to the races to find negative news stories about POC and LGBTQ to deflect from the fact that you have absolutely no issues whatsoever with ONE person trampling our country, global presence and foundation of our elections.

    Someone involved in the 2016 election interference has admitted that is exactly what happened.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/11/7/wagner-group-founder-admits-to-us-election-interference

    And, if we fast forward a few more years, Saudi Arabia will most likely admit their interference via Twitter (through Musk) and Orange Cancer.
     
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    I do just fine. You should learn to accept disagreement more graciously.
     
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    Isn't what he wrote in his tweet a rationalization of his failed coup? Isn't he just getting ahead of what the 1/6 committee's report will say about his culpability for it? And the charges he will face when Jack Smith's investigation is done?

    It's a plea to The Following to excuse his criminal behavior. He's trying to play the victimhood card once again.
     

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