The Purpose Of The Left

As should be apparent to anybody paying much attention, the Left is quite good at using their anger to tear things apart, but once this demolition is accomplished, they are clueless [which makes perfect sense as their attempts at creating workable societies have been absolute sh*tshows].

There is little question that all the major institutions in the West have been seriously corrupted over the past decades and significant changes need to be made. One of the benefits of the Left is that they not only further expose the corruption, but also lay bare their own warped thinking about how things should be [e.g., the de-fund the police mis-calculation, the re-writing of history, the indoctrination of children, etc.].

Now that everybody has witnessed what the Left has to offer, people will choose those who actually have the skills [and balance] to reform the system in a way that will work, that is, a mixed economy that takes advantage of market forces but provides in some manner for the less able. Unfortunately, it's going to take many years to root-out much of the rot in the political and corporate sectors, but it will happen just the same and life will go on...

 

Pardon me for cutting you off there, but what you're talking about fits the definition of Nihilism:

"Critical theory" - the coy self-description of the ideological Left - self-consciously describes itself by the totality of its rejection of the existing social order, in identical fashion to old-style Marxists (Marx himself was a "critical theorist"). The explicit agenda of critical theory is to undermine the credibility and authority of the status quo in order to prepare its annihilation. The task of undermining communal assumptions and stabilizing faiths is not incidental to the radical critique, but is its corrosive essence. It is what the theory intends. Yet, like the Marxist-Leninists of the past, critical theorists never confront the moral issue posed by their destructive agendas: What can be the rationale for weakening and ultimately destroying a system as liberal as the existing one, if no better has been devised?

Without its adherents noticing, the theoretical argument of the Left has been emptied of content by the failures of socialism. For what is the practical meaning of a socialist critique in the absence of a workable socialist model? In fact, there is none. By adopting an impossible standard, it is easy to find fault with any institution or social system under scrutiny. The ideal of socialist equality, for example, may or may not be admirable. But if social equality cannot be realized in practice, or if the attempt to realize it necessarily creates a totalitarian state, then the idea of such equality can have no significance except as an incitement to destructive agendas.

To raise the socialist ideal to a critical standard imposes a burden of responsibility on its advocates that critical theorists refuse to shoulder. If one sets out to destroy a lifeboat because it fails to meet the standards of a luxury yacht, the act of criticism may be perfectly "just", but the passengers will drown all the same. Similarly, if socialist principles can only be realized in a socialist gulag, even the presumed inequalities of the capitalist market are worth the price. If socialist poverty and socialist police states are the practical alternative to capitalist inequality, what justice can there be in destroying capitalist freedoms and the benefits they provide? Without a practical alternative to offer, radical idealism is radical nihilism - a war of destruction with no objective other than war.

I'm somewhat nitpicking here, but the only thing I disagree with is in the concluding sentence. I would have worded it in a manner that was more consistent with the definition of Nihilism:

Radical nihilism - a war of destruction with no objective other than destruction.

Or to put it more concisely:

Radical nihilism - Destruction for destruction's sake.

Destroying or "fundamentally transforming" America without a viable alternative is the very definition of Nihilism.

Have you ever read Dostoevsky's Demons?



You'd almost swear you were reading about our country instead of pre-revolutionary Russia...

 

The Left's ultimate goal is to institute Agenda 2030

 

Yep, the purpose of the left is to destroy the country. That's what we all dream about. Make us go back to the stone ages, so we lose our jobs, our kids will have no education, no jobs, no future... It's a truly salivating prospect.

On the other hand, perpetual RW rule will be utopia for all. Everyone will be rich. We'll be winning until we get tired of it. Get a grip (and your head out of RW media).

 

How about the government take a few steps back and let the people be free to go about their lives?

 

Actually Left or Right These United States has grown or maintained it's preeminence as the most powerful nation on earth, in spite of Republicans kicking off exponential debt growth with Ronald Regan. The rate of debt growth has dropped under Democratic Presidents and then increased, again, under Republican presidents.

I have a problem with this paragraph, because I question it wholeheartedly. Here's why:

It's obvious that "corruption" is a plague of the right not the left.

Now that we've witnessed the difference of what the Left and Right achives:



And which party is consistently better for America ... it's an easy choice. After the last election maybe we can hope it won't take to many more cycles before the rot of republicans is dealt with.

 

Who is "the left"? Does this group include Joe Manchin and AOC? Or Bill Maher and Kathy Griffin?

I don't think there are as many people in the group you are talking about as you think, but the imprecise language makes it so.

It doesn't help anyone when we make the group of our enemies larger than it really is.

 

The lengths some folks will go to convince themselves they are on the righteous side and the other side must be nothing less than hellbent on destroying everything is astounding. Truly astounding.

That astonishment is equaled only by the arrogance it must take to believe such a thing is actually true.

 

They certainly do come off that way but I believe it is more of an emotional rather then a philosophical issue. If you view the world in terms of oppressors and victims, then you certainly see yourself in the later category instead of taking a more balanced view [which might suggest that we all occupy every category to some extent [within everything exists everything].

In any case, it certainly seems as if those on the Left are projecting their personal misery as well as downloading an all-purpose excuse for all manifestations of failure.

I suppose you realize that the adults will do what needs to be done after the children are done making mischief...in the meantime, you can appear virtuous while displaying your complete misunderstanding of geopolitics and economic theory.

Get more than two adults together in a room and you've got trouble.

I consider The Left as those who believe that the collective should be preeminent over the individual.

Sometimes you have to take a stand against those who do not recognize the evil contained in what they are advocating.

 

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So it would include Jesus.

 

Are you referring to the bitch'in dude down at the tattoo parlor on Alameda or the Jewish carpenter guy?

 

"projecting their personal misery" is exactly what the right has been doing since before Trump. He's the consummate victim.

By that, it seems you really don't understand liberalism at all. We believe no such thing. We simply believe in an all-inclusive, civil society, where the "playing field" is level. That by no means is an indication that individualism is frowned upon.

As to that, amen!

 

Yes, tis true. However, sometimes people convince themselves they see the real truth and fight for the side of righteousness. Just look at how many "freedom fighters" there are across the world. Everyone's the hero in their own political narrative, or at the very least on the side of the heroes.

 

I'm talking about the hippie who hung out with 12 dudes telling people to help the poor and trashing rich people his whole life.

 

I don't know but the OP argument is the the angry left has been tearing down the country for 200+ years and yet somehow US is the greatest nation on the planet.

I like the US with all faults, because I know that no place is perfect. Clearly the OP hate everything he sees in US. Its the same old "America is carnage" argument we have seen from certain politicians.

Safe to say we are dealing with extreme resentment, negativity & pessimism. Its a dark place to be, but some place choose to dwell in it.

 

What, in YOUR life, are you no longer free to enjoy?

 

All the money I earn.

 

Bull. I thought you were proud of the tRaitor tRump tax cut ... for the 1%?

 

So you want to leech off the govt. Got it.

 

In what ways?

 

Buying a gun without going through dumb **** to do it. Own an automatic weapon.

 

A simple background check that takes less than an hour is all it takes to buy "a gun". You can own an automatic weapon if you buy a $200 tax stamp and get approval from the ATF. But the truth is, unless you're in your 90's you never could own an automatic weapon.

 

Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

 

So where were you promised a hassle free existence?

 

That's what freedom means. Especially the shall not be abridged and shall not be infringed.