TN: Tyre Nichols was 'defenseless' during his 'savage' beating by police, attorneys say

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  1. SiNNiK

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    Can't tell if you are despicable or disingenuous. Doesn't much matter, either way your credibility is done.
     
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    Nichols' resisting arrest in on the body cam footage and other footage.
     
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    Depend on the cam footage. Don't depend on the police chief from Memphis who doesn't want ANTIFA morons crawling around his city.
     
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    Cop haters are gonna hate.
     
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    There's a whole lot of footage from police body cams showing Nichols resisting arrest on many occasion before he ran away. Why do you ignore this? BTW, that last question is rhetorical.
     
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    Huh? Man, that's delusional. I'm not snarky and don't have a chip on my shoulder. From Property Managers to LEO's, I respect authority in every form. I don't fear the Police. On a daily basis, what I fear is how people drive. And my concerns are about how the average person might act. We haven't heard from the Officers involved in Nichols arrest. It stands to reason that every arrest involving the use of force by Police will appear ugly. There is no such world where law breakers turn themselves in, confess, and lock themselves up, all pretty and contrite.
     
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    Why are whites racist is another great question. What is the root of white racism...I'm extremely curious about this, it's never been explained to me by a true racist...
     
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    Which white racism are you referring to?
     
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    Nope. Twice as many whites as blacks die at the hands of the Police.
     
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    I just did.
     
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    Reads like "They" are hard to find :) Sort of like the elusive unicorn.. Both are just a myth and something for the imaginative to believe in ;)
     
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    Before the release, I saw the head of their police or whatever her roll was explain on the news what the video was about... and that it contained things like the cops held their victims arms behind his back so an other cop had a nice and clear opportunity to hit the victims face / head as hard as he could a couple of times. This, and the parents of the victim said they were initially told by the police that the wounds were just from a pepper spray and a taser. So it was easy to know straight from the start that the cops were lying, and now their boss actually spills the beans on what went on that goes along with the injuries.

    Color me crazy, but I have no problem with following the well accepted general news and don't resort to facebook "truths", and don't need to "investigate" it all on my own.
     
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    A butt load of misinformation.
     
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    It was a simple question. Why are white folk racist..

    let's look at slavery in America for example, why did the white government think enacting racist laws against black folk was righteous?
     
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    White so-called Christians at the time said the Bible divinely sanctioned them owning black people as property.
    They enacted whatever inhumane laws they wanted that applied to slaves which eventually morphed into the ungodly despicable "Jim Crow" laws.
     
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    Did the Bible state to enslave black folk specifically or did the white "Christian" use that falsified interpretation as an excuse to hide their deep racist feelings? If it's the latter then why were white folk so deeply racist and easily convinced as a society to agree with racial slavery?
     
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    Slavery is still legal in America but some States have eliminated it in their constitutions. As long as slavery is legal in America the Slave Patrollers will continue to oppress people.
     
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    Most cops in the world are psychos and will gladly beat or kill anyone at anytime for any reason or for no reason. You are probably safer in a room with 100 rattlesnakes than you are in a room with just one cop.
     
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    Do you have any example of legal slavery in North America?
     
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    I have never had an altercation with an officer of the law, nor have any of my acquaintances "bikers" black, hispanic and white. For the most part they are descent enough, BUT, they are always cops :)
     
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    The biblical fairytale is an ancient ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairytale. It says that Gentiles will be slaves to the Jews. The Jewish Babylonian Talmud says that each Jew will get 2,800 slaves in the afterlife. So, if you want to be a slave for eternity, then believe in that fairytale. You will be one if you are a Gentile.
     
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    Here's some history on the Bible being used to condone slavery.

    How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery
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    BY NOEL RAE

    FEBRUARY 23, 2018 3:30 PM EST
    During the period of American slavery, how did slaveholders manage to balance their religious beliefs with the cruel facts of the “peculiar institution“? As shown by the following passages — adapted from Noel Rae’s new book The Great Stain, which uses firsthand accounts to tell the story of slavery in America — for some of them that rationalization was right there in the Bible.

    Out of the more than three quarters of a million words in the Bible, Christian slaveholders—and, if asked, most slaveholders would have defined themselves as Christian—had two favorites texts, one from the beginning of the Old Testament and the other from the end of the New Testament. In the words of the King James Bible, which was the version then current, these were, first, Genesis IX, 18–27:"

    cont:
    https://archive.is/m2IYR
     
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    Cops obviously wrong in this one.
     
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    You either did not see my other post (#356), did not see the video of the beginning of the encounter, up through Nichols escape, or are so hopelessly bigoted, you could not recognize that Nichols was not "resisting," and was being subjected to far more physical treatment, and threatening behavior, by police, than was warranted or excusable. It is important to note that this is not just my opinion, or even the general opinion of viewers of the video footage, but of members of law enforcement, who have been asked for comment. I am not aware of any members of law enforcement, endorsing or defending this police behavior-- probably why they were summarily dismissed.

    Since you are apparently not much for reading posts, to which you are pointed, I will cite some of the opinions of the lawyers, I'd quoted, with which your own reply to me, directly contradicts. My snip had ended with one lawyer saying that "It's very likely he resisted because he felt the need to save his life," and another adding that "natural human instinct may be to resist when five people are essentially beating up on you." Consider yourself fortunate that you have never been put into that type of situation, by police.

    More quotes: "There's no reason why five officers need to reduce themselves to closed-fist punching in order to subdue a suspect who does not appear to be violent in return, but at the very worst can be said to not be compliant with their orders..." The officers could certainly have safely detained, 145 lb. Nichols, w/out resorting to physical blows. That is not the way it works, and would be quite a statement by yourself, if you think that it
    should work that way, that anytime a detained individual is not 100%, instantaneously compliant with police requests, that any and all violent responses by police, are thereby warranted. In one legal opinion, of someone who did see what was on the video, "It's almost as if they are trying to gain his compliance by assaulting him."

    All the lawyers "said that Nichols initially appeared compliant but was met with force anyways." IOW, they were treating him in such a manner as to give themselves the pretext, to say that he had been "resisting." One lawyer summed up, with a sentiment to which I think most reasonable people, in and out of law enforcement, would agree: "'this could've all been avoided if police had treated this young man with respect in the first incidence' rather than with a 'physical confrontation' and threats."


     
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    It's in the news.

    https://truthout.org/articles/four-states-voted-to-end-slavery-but-not-louisiana-heres-why/
    November 10, 2022

    Four states voted to abolish slavery, but not Louisiana. Here's why
    "Prison labour is a multi-billion dollar industry in the US."
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63578133


    Slavery in Utah? Yes, it’s still legal
    https://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/slavery-in-utah-yes-its-still-legal/


    Movement grows to abolish US prison labor system that treats workers as ‘less than human’

    PRIVATE COMPANIES PRODUCING WITH US PRISON LABOR IN 2020: PRISON LABOR IN THE US, PART II
    https://corpaccountabilitylab.org/c...-labor-in-2020-prison-labor-in-the-us-part-ii


    https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles/workampr.pdf

    https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/2022-06-15-captivelaborresearchreport.pdf

    http://maltajusticeinitiative.org/1...efiting-from-the-prison-industrial-complex-2/

    There were public slave auctions in America well after the end of the Civil War. The war didn't end slavery; it just ended chattel slavery.
    Note the newspaper ad on page 6 of this pdf = https://blogs.law.columbia.edu/abolition1313/files/2020/08/Childs-Slaves-of-the-State-Ch.-2-2.pdf
     
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