Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut: ‘Our troops are not being protected’

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    I already wrote to you. Russians, like any other person, want to earn extra money. Therefore, they are looking forward to Western tanks.
     
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    They are most likely looking to surrender being most of the Russians on the battlefield do not want to be there fighting for some Madman's agenda.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you've been told.

    You've also been told that Ukrainian frogmen blew up the Nordstream. Do you believe that too? :lol:
     
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    I don't believe most of what media puts out there, but I do believe in the number of Russians surrendering and making calls to the Surrender hotline. Up to 10k that have surrendered so far!

    Problem for you is that most of those Russians on the battlefield do not want to be forced to die as cannon fodder when ordered to throw themselves into the line of fire where death is a high probability when they do not even understand what they are fighting for.

    Really, they are fighting for absolutely nothing to gain as Russian Citizens. Their economy will never be the same, Russia will be a pariah to the world and they are forced with guns behind them to run into heavy artillary. If they don't run into heavy artillary as cannon fodder, they are shot by their own people.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    NOBODY wants to be cannon fodder Ric. Say something we don't know, if you don't mind.

    Otherwise, what you post is standard fare propaganda from Kiev intended to feed the gullible US population like you and my brother.
     
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    Not propaganda as soo many Russians on the Battlefield have told anyone who will listen what is happening to them. I believe what I hear from the horses mouth aka the Russians forced to die for Putin's folly.

    Now, if it comes down to those fighting for their homeland and families against Russian soldiers forced by a madman to die on the battlefield by the enemy or your superiors putting a bullet in your head, then I do believe that the Ukrainians have the advantage as fighting for family and home will always lead to a better soldier. Their hearts will be much more into it.
     
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    You believe what you hear from the largest propaganda consortium in the world, the US government and its fascist mainstream media.
     
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    And, you believe in the largest disinformation propaganda on the planet as Russia only allows their citizens to view one sided information. Anyone who disagrees and is critical of that information gets up to a 5 year prison sentence. But, they are trying to expand that to 15 years now since so many Russians are starting to learn about Putins lies and they have to clamp down on the sheep with threats.

    That is the difference in the rest of the world out west. We can disagree with the US Governments decisions by yelling as loud as we want criticizing Biden, Trump, Bush or Obama. Do that in Russia is akin to a death sentence not only for you, but for your family.

    That is why we are fighting for Ukrainians right to freedom of oppression by a blood thirsty brutal dictator.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    LOL, you have the same predictable "thought" processes as my dear gullible brother. :lol:
     
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    And, you are the perfect Russian Sheep!
     
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    I may not know where Putin got his new Artillery to go after Ukraine, but Putin is determined to make Ukraine his own even if it has to kill innocent people there and Putin will do it regardless.
    Here is something of interest.

    What's going to happen next? Nuclear Weapons to destroy Ukraine? Think about it. I'm out of here for now.
     
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    Maybe then the US govt is CONFUSED. We see this govt telling us economy is bad, and that it's good. We see the govt telling us the war is good, and that it's bad or illegal. We see the govt saying the trans issues are good and they are bad.
    We know what Russian govt tells us - there's no war, Russia is fighting imperialism. Russian economy doing great. Russia is free. Where's the alternative narrative like we see in USA? Answer - there is none. And that my friend is the true nature of propoganda - one side only.
     
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    Hard to make money when you are dead. 160,000+ are already dead and total Russian forces in Ukraine are some where between 250,000-300,000. That is 80% to 90% of their available combat forces too with the majority being untrained conscripts. So Russia's ability to escalate is pretty tightly restricted at this point. They are more or less all in already.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:...
    We'll see.
     
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    We certainly will. Not so sure the Kremlin will allow you to see, though. :)
     
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    So that is why Putin is forcing his untrained soldiers to die as cannon fodder on the front lines, so he doesn't have to pay them. You got a solid point. Offer a boatload of money to fight for Russia then kill them off. Genius.
     

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