Effective Ukrainian Partisan Attacks on Russian Forces

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not the fixated one .. you are the one fixated on denial of reality and strawman fallacy .. desperate to put words into my mouth not uttered so you have something to argue against.

    The "False Narrative" .. is the spoon fed propaganda you continue to spout .. like there was no persecution of Ethnic Russians - Gov't involvment in this persecution - by folks calling themselves Nazi's -- and that the Bear was not poked.

    You then make another false claim stating I dismiss the acts of Russia Nazi's ... all you have managed is to run around making false accusations .. unable to deal with reality in front of you.
     
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    Do you condemn Putin’s illegal invasion and war against Ukraine and do you condemn the war crimes of Putin which are the same as the acts of Hitler ?
     
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    Why are you asking stupid questions which are unrelated to the subject at hand ? Putin's war crimes many years later have nothing to do with whether or not the Azov Nazi crimes happened. -- have nothing to do with whether or not NATO was poking the Bear- has nothing to do with the persecution of the Russian Separatists .. and so on.

    You are trying to deflect from the Azov Nazi Crimes by complaining about Putin and making up falsehoods about Putin .. but Putin is not the subject under discussion .. and has no bearing on whether or not the Azov Nazi's were Nazi's
     
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    You are merely reciting the false Muscovite justification narrative to deflect from Putin's crimes.
     
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    Ukraine Conflict Updates

    The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported on April 24 that Ukrainian partisans targeted a Russian military checkpoint in an improvised explosive device (IED) attack near Oleshky, Kherson Oblast. The center reported that partisans from the Atesh movement blew up a Russian military checkpoint located near military infrastructure, killing an unspecified number of Rosgvardia servicemen and destroying military equipment on the evening of April 23.[52]
     
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    - Durandal .. you have yet to figure out what Propaganda is .. how then would you know Muscovite propaganda from Western media Lies ?

    Jack .. come on now .. nothing false about the fact that Azov Nazi's were persecuting ethnic Russians in Ukraine .. while Gov't looked the other way .. If you think this does not justify Putin invading ... you are welcome to your opinion .. but there is nothing false about the accusation. The falsehoods are comming out of the state sponsored propaganda dribbling out of your gob mate ... please do not try to tar me with that Stank Brush .. project your failings onto me .. I am not the one proudly proclaiming to be oblivious to any and all Western Propaganda .. that was YOU and the Backslap crew .. go complain to Durandal about the absurd falsehood if you like .. but don't blame me for the disingenuous oblivion.
     
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    Actually it was and remains a complete falsehood.
     
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    Durandal .. you don't know what propaganda is. How then would you be able to tell the difference between Muscovite propaganda and Western Media Lies ?
     
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    Jacko - I realize that your absurd claim that the Western Media never lies is a complete falsehood In addition - I am fairly sure that you also know that your claim is a complete falsehood .. as does Durandal .. who pats your back every time you make this false claim .. and do the Orc Orc Cheer -- but that is another story.

    Disingenuous oblivion is not an argument for much Jack .. not gonna help out those teenage Ukrainian Lads you have been cheerleading towards the meat grinder.
     
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    [​IMG] The Telegraph
    Fresh Ukrainian troops are ready to smash Putin
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    Jacko - I realize that your absurd claim that the Western Media never lies is a complete falsehood In addition - I am fairly sure that you also know that your claim is a complete falsehood .. as does Durandal .. who pats your back every time you make this false claim .. and do the Orc Orc Cheer -- but that is another story.

    Disingenuous oblivion is not an argument for much Jack .. not gonna help out those teenage Ukrainian Lads you have been cheerleading towards the meat grinder.

    Yes Jack .. Fresh teenage Ukrainian Meat for the meat grinder -- give us another "Orc Orc" cheer Jack ..
     
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    I need only read your posts to know what propaganda is.
     
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    War of maneuver is coming.
     
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    Jacko - I realize that your absurd claim that the Western Media never lies is a complete falsehood In addition - I am fairly sure that you also know that your claim is a complete falsehood .. as does Durandal .. who pats your back every time you make this false claim .. and do the Orc Orc Cheer -- but that is another story.

    Disingenuous oblivion is not an argument for much Jack .. not gonna help out those teenage Ukrainian Lads you have been cheerleading towards the meat grinder.

    Yes Jack .. Fresh teenage Meat a la Ukraine for the meat grinder -- Bidens JV team .. one final gasp ... heard they have round 60,000 fresh meat for the Spring Offensive ... unfortunately they don't have much equipment - air defense has crumbled .. Vlad starting to beef up the bombing with the Air Ground and Pound. If they combine the teen lads in to one general force .. go for a big Push in one location .. Crimea for example .. really only one way for the main offensive... we could expect at least 2000 dead a day -- in 3 weeks 2/3rds dead .. running for the River in Retreat. Thats called the Spanky Maneuver Jack --- after which come the Hoards.

    Was telling one of the Orc Cheer Team - rather than just taking crimea - separatist regions .. thinking perhaps it might be easier if Vlad just took the whole thing .. This would solve the joining NATO problem .. no negotiations would be required .. just get er done with if Biden is going to be a dick about things .. What you think about that plan Jack ?
     
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    Your fictional scenario has nothing to do with the coming battles.
     
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    It's hard to generalize about western media since we have a lot of media of questionable credibility, such as a lot of "alternative" crap that publishes Kremlin propaganda and disinformation verbatim, for example. But legitimate media such as CNN, MSNBC, etc. never lie. They may make mistakes, but they also publish corrections when they do.
     
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    Daily propaganda machines .. CNN - MSNBC -- Falsehood - Sin Omission - Lies .. on a daily basis .. and intentionally so .. and only on a cold day in hell is there a correction published .. Pedling the Woke Joke propaganda narrative 24-7 .. hardcore propaganda mate.

    Dude - horribly sorry to pop that massive necessary Illusion bubble ... Same is true over at Fox .. but even if this was not true .. glad you finally admit that western media is not immune from propaganda .. now I can finally stop harrassing you . and that is a relief .. believe me .. take no pleasure in making you wrong all the time .. some of the time for sure is pleasing .. but not all the time over same issue.

    How many examples would you like ? ... give you a free one to start .. Maddow -- "Vax Prevents Transmission" trope .. Falsehood on steroids that one .. you want to try to find me a correction .. or from any other of the Fake News Media reporting the same lie - the same "propaganda" - straight from the lips of Smokin Joe as well .. in many variations .. demonizing dissenters as "Unclean" .. straight out of Hitlers Handbook.
     
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    "Woke" is a badly overused word and has no meaning at this point. It's just the latest pejorative being constantly blared in wingnut echo chambers and beyond.

    Also, lulz at your "harassing" me. Bring it, biatch.
     
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    Perhaps it means nothing to you . but this is not surprizing coming from someone who is just figuring out that CNN is a propaganda mouthpiece for the State .. as is MSNBC ..and Fox.

    What does "Woke" mean to you if not other than "Cancel Culture" .. as in how about we Cancel everything that conflicts with progressive nut job narrative trope. which is kind of what you have been doing .. so .. it is a shoe fits scenario.

    is a bit priceless that you then use the purjorative term "ECHO Chamber" - as that is you to a Tee .. by your own admission .. in another big toe in mouth moment .. claiming no propaganda in western media .. which crying out to the world that you are all about the echo chamber...

    and I am not harrassing you ... cept when you deserve it .. but not overall .. as I told you ... Am Trying to Extract the Poison Lizard .. and in case you didn't notice .. or have forgotten already .. Got one in the post previous ... you admitting to "Propaganda" in Western Media . then moving the goalpost to CNN MSNBC .. which also turned out to be a complete boo boo on your part.. sentencing you to the Echo Chamber .. cause thats all you can hear .. drinking the koolaid without knowing it is spiked ..

    There is more to the woke joke than that though .. it is the hatred for founding principle on the basis of collectivist justification for law and punishment .. very "Adolfian" in nature that one . Tyrannical .... .. havn't gotten to that lizard yet .. just letting you know it is in there and being targeted.

    Word on the Street "Warriors" - our Lads in Bakhmut got themselves trapped some 6-8000 they reckon... stuck in the "Cauldron" - didn't retreat soon enough .. some bad decicion making .. lack of experience a nice way to put it. Guess on the bright side Vlad has lots of room for POWs having emptied out his Prisons .. Thats a big hit though .. told you so if true .. the Prophet again come through .. for you
    better that then mass slaughter .. boys wont last long with supply line cut off and little or no air defense .. .. them Patriot batteries being saved for the big Offensive comming soon.
     
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    We don't have propaganda mouthpieces for the state, actually. We have a free press, something you would know nothing about.
     
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    No .. We don't have a fair and free press .. something you have proclaimed to know nothing about --- don't be projecting your failings onto me.

    What part of the Maddow Example " Vax Prevents Transmission Lie" compliments of MSNBC and the Biden -Fauci Clown Show .. did you not understand was propaganda ?

    Whole life you have been living under the impression the koolaid wasn't spiked .. "WOW" -- and sorry for you .. but .. all your positions are thus manufactured by the State .. and you did not know it.. But ,, now you do .. so whop de whoo . :banana::banana:
     
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    More propaganda, of course. Maddow is not the news. She's more like *ucker Carlson, someone offering opinion and commentary on top of news. That you even try to equate her and her show with the press shows that you either have no idea what you're talking about or are being disingenuous.

    You also can't show that her statements were "manufactured by the state" or that she or her show were or are in any way controlled by the state. The state in my country, which is not your country, does not have that power.
     
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    What's a Ukrainian partisan attack?
     
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    Sadly, MSNBC does routinely lie and almost never publishes retractions.
     
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    This thread documents many.
     

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