Musk Calls For Russia-Ukraine Truce

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  1. Durandal

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    I didn't accuse you of anything. You keep engaging in straw man arguments and ad hominem attacks to avoid discussing how wrong you are and how wrong and monstrous Russia is in their invasion of Ukraine.
     
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    Then we're not talking about a democracy since democracies have elections and allow opposition parties.
     
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    Reagan wasn't dealing with Vladimir Putin, the former KGB agent on a revanchist mission to rebuild that wall.
     
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    US taxpayers sending 100 Bln to Ukraine ...not too Kremlin.

    WOW!!...ya don't say!....Ukraines being brought up to EU/NATO standards....has that occurred to you by chance.

    All their Soviet "garbage" is being replaced by Western equipment....HIMARS, NASAMs,ATACMS, Storm Shadows, Abrams,Leo's,Challengers, Patriots, etc....takes a few bucks to do that considering they had an antiquated Soviet judiciary, economy, military, infrastructure etc.

    Why would billions be sent to Kremlin?....so Shag-me Shoigu could buy himself a mansion in Tuscany ....or a yacht in Casablanca?
     
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    What a totally absurd statement.
     
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    You see? This actually makes sense. This is the true explanation for why you went from one extreme to another and why you are constantly projecting your own experiences on to others.

    I hate to break it to you, dude, but you're still trapped in that cycle. I mean... you're one of the few people left in the entire western world who still tries to defend the Iraq war. Even the people who started that war won't defend it, for the most part.
     
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    I'll try to make it simple for you: American pay for Kiev. American have right to know how many Ukraine dead. Kiev don't tell American how many. Kiev hiding the truth. Why?
     
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    “stealing our money and sending it overseas”. Wow what deep dark abyss did that unsubstantiated accusation come from?
     
  9. Durandal

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    You don't know what you're talking about. In fact, I think it was just yesterday I posted that I did not support the Iraq war.

    I'm not caught in any cycle, as much as you might want to convince yourself of that to avoid discussing how wrong your stated beliefs are and the fact that you support a fascist dictatorship that has invaded another country, attempted to topple its government, and is attempting to take over its sovereign territory under numerous false pretenses and contrary to international law.
     
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    Nope. Liberals are really angry that Elon didn't start WWIII. Thankfully, Elon is sane.
     
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    That's how foreign aid works. The government confiscates money from Americans and sends it to foreign governments. Naturally, the foreign leeches who benefit from this arrangement are all for it.
     
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    Why would we have that right? What a strange thing to harp on, how many of Ukraine's soldiers have been tragically killed defending their homeland.

    Are you concerned about how many soldiers and civilians the Russians have killed and gotten killed in this conflict so far?
     
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    There are Russian speakers serving in the Ukrainians military and fighting against the Russian invaders.
     
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    Actually no, that is not how it works. It does not confiscate any money.
     
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    Yep, including many Russian nationals who would like to see Russia freed from the "Eating Russia" party's rule.
     
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    90% of what you post is just thinly veiled accusations that the other person is some kind of Russian dupe or stooge or puppet. Anyone who questions your establishment dogma, you try to smear. And it makes perfect sense that you'd still be engaging in that kind of behavior.
     
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    This is just not your day.
     
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    Right. He was dealing with the actual Soviet Union, not the one that only exists in your imagination.
     
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    So you admit that the Iraq war was an act of aggression based on lies and fraud? And that it caused enormous pain and suffering to millions of people across multiple countries, including America?

    Do tell.
     
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    Because Americans are paying for the war. The ones who pay for the war have the right to know how the war is going. I guess this simple truth can be confusing to someone who cares more about Kiev than America.

    Yes, I want to know how many Ukrainians have died fighting in this war. The only reason to keep it a secret is because the number is so obscene that it would shock the western conscience. It might even shock you. Although I do have to wonder. You're one of those "pro-Ukraine" people who seems willing to fight down to the last Ukrainian.
     
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    Bro, if you ignore the dictatorship, then Kiev is the world's greatest democracy. Why are you so fixated on that one little piece of trivia?

    :-D
     
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    According to the new definition of "democracy", Saudi Arabia qualifies as one. They've just suspended elections for a really long time, that's all. But they got good reasons for doing so, I'm sure.
     
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    You must be talking about Putler then....since there's no real opposition, and he's been in office for ....what, almost 3 decades?:)
     
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    SU was Russki dominated...Russian was the main language...right?

    So..Reagan dealt with the "evil empire" ...dominated by Russkis. Get the drift?
     
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    Many Mafiosi supporters here are probably Ruzzians here....come to think of it....most of them claim to be from New York or Florida....gee....wonder why?
     

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