TN: Tyre Nichols was 'defenseless' during his 'savage' beating by police, attorneys say

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Hasn't it already received international publicity:
     
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    That was fast even though the UN is useless.

    Source: Law & Crime

    'UN human rights experts accuse U.S. law enforcement of violating international law and call out ‘police culture’ over in-custody deaths of Keenan Anderson and Tyre Nichols'

    COLIN KALMBACHERFeb 11th, 2023, 5:12 pm


    'United Nations human rights experts on Friday accused U.S. law enforcement of violating international laws and obligations prohibiting torture or other cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment in response to the recent in-custody deaths of two Black men following interactions with police in California and Tennessee.

    Yvonne Mokgoro, the chairperson of the UN International Independent Expert Mechanism to Advance Racial Justice and Equality in the context of Law Enforcement, urged action.

    “The brutal deaths of Keenan Anderson and Tyre Nichols are more reminders of the urgency to act,” she said in a news release.'

    Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...y-deaths-of-keenan-anderson-and-tyre-nichols/
     
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    There may have been a personal angle to Tyre Nichols’s death

    'One rumor suggesting a connection between Nichols and one of the officers involved may have some confirmation.'

    The speculation was that Tyre was dating one of the cops ex girlfriends and baby mama, after the beating he texted pictures if Tyre's face to her. Now we learn this that may offer some corroboration:

    'In the documents for Demetrius Haley, the files note:'

    “On your personal cell phone, you took two photographs while standing in front of the obviously injured subject after he was handcuffed. In your Garrity statement, you admitted you shared the photo in a text message with five (5) people; one civilian employee, two MPD officers, and one female acquaintance.”
     
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    This isn't a bad summation:
     
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    Surprised not to have seen this yet:
     
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  6. Izzy

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    I'll look for updates on the status of all these officers



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    Accountability is what we NEED! No other family should have to grieve the loss of a loved one over unqualified, untrained, and unsupervised police! This $550M lawsuit will hold those responsible to account & hopefully prevent any more unjust deaths!


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    Tyre Nichols' family files federal $550 million civil lawsuit against Memphis and police officers |...
    The family of Tyre Nichols filed a federal $550 million lawsuit against the city of Memphis, its police department and what the suit said were "unqualified, untrained, and unsupervised" officers...




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    'Five former Memphis police officers indicted in Tyre Nichols killing'
    Reuters
    September 12, 20232:48 PM EDTUpdated an hour ago

    snip:

    "The five former officers - Tadarrius Bean, Demetrius Haley, Emmitt Martin, Desmond Mills Jr. and Justin Smith - pleaded not guilty in February to second-degree murder and other charges brought by a local prosecutor. The five officers, all of whom are Black, were fired from the department.

    According to Tuesday's indictment, they have been charged with four federal counts including "Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law: Excessive Force and Failure to Intervene." Other counts include conspiracy to witness tamper and obstruction of justice.'


    cont:
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fi...ed-over-tyre-nichols-death-filing-2023-09-12/
     
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    Accountability is seriously important.

    But, these events are NOT just the result of officers taking personal murderous action.

    They are an indictment of the police force to which they belong.

    Simply putting these policemen in prison is no more than a matter of recognizing how serious the failure of the police department was.

    There is no possibility of the population trusting police departments that kill those they police without serious justification.

    And, policing can't be successful without that trust by the population.

    Also, these are only the most notable indicators of the interaction between the police force and the public they police. It doesn't show the level of disrespect, etc., that officers are required to show, for example. It only shows that it is SO FAR OUT OF CONTROL that murder happens.
     
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    From the link I just posted about their federal charge indictments.
    Hopefully it has legs.

    'In July, the Justice Department opened an investigation into whether the Memphis Police Department has an unconstitutional "pattern or practice" of using excessive force and racial discrimination.

    The Justice Department said it had received multiple reports of Memphis officers using excessive force and reports they may use force against people who are already restrained or in police custody.'
     
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    This sounds good - I hope there is follow through.

    I'm concerned that there is way more of this issue that is below the level of murder, but still affects law in significant ways.

    Frankly, I suspect we need a period of ongoing process of evaluation in all our police departments. Our objective can't be limited to a low rate of unjustified homicide.
     
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    When I hear the woop woop and see blue lights in my rearview, I pull over, park, and comply from the start, because that's the law. If I don't, the odds of things arriving at buttercups and rainbows immediately begin to vanish. Nichols was lawless and refused to be subdued throughout the whole ordeal. The Police are hired to uphold the law and subdue those who refuse to comply. I don't know if the Police went too far. But I do know that Nichols bears at least 75% of the onus for the outcome. You can't put Police thru that much stress, drama, and danger, and expect them to come to you with the peace of God. That would be as irrational of an expectation as was Nichols conduct.
     
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    You obviously know zilch about the killing of Tyre Nichols from the being pulled over to his death.
    Blaming the victim is the go-to for many, too bad it means ****.
     
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    Odd how if he was so overpowered and compliant, that he was able to break free and run away...twice. If you're compliant, you don't run away. If your overpowered, you don't break free and run away.
     
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    You obviously know zilch about the killing of Tyre Nichols from the being pulled over to his death.
    Blaming the victim is the go-to for many, too bad it means ****.
     
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    upload_2023-9-12_20-20-13.png FOX 13 Memphis
    WATCH: Ben Crump speaks after former MPD officers charged in Tyre Nichols' death face federal indictments
    1 hour ago
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    Attorneys Ben Crump, Antonio Romanucci and Tyre Nichols' family respond to federal charges
    3 hours ago
     
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    I think you know VERY WELL that the police went too far.

    Just read the reports. I think you will recognize that this individual was killed AFTER being fully and violently subdued. And, the police stood by and watched him die.
     
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    They're a typical cop apologist when a black man is tortured and killed by cops.
    Long before Tyre Nichols was killed he was illegally stopped by the cops.
     
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    Yes.

    I think people do not understand that the experience of past police contact absolutely does have an affect on views of the legitimacy of police actions.

    And, it's not just limited to the specific individual, either.

    The population KNOWS. They read the news. They talk to their friends. They even participate in marches for killings in other cities.
     
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    I agree with what your'e saying about past contact with police,
    Even in the liberal state of Vt racial profiling continues to take place by cops.

    I wasn't clear and used the wrong word (long) when I wrote that "long before Nichols was killed he was illegally stopped".

    Nichols hadn't done anything while driving that warranted him being pulled over.
    The reasons the cops gave were unsubstantiated.
    It's been reported that Nichols was seeing the cop Demetrius's ex- g'friend and this same cop sent her photos from his cell phone of a beaten-up Nichols.
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    Was this ever confirmed? Horrible if true...
     
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    Demetrius ex-girlfriend and Nichols ........no
    Demetrius sending photos to 5 people.....yes
     
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    crazy.... glad they got video, maybe justice will be done
     
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    When you can't defend his criminal behavior, then just pretend that his race is the issue. Such that because race is no crime, then his innocence doth shine. That is a speedy burying and hiding of the truth....obstruction on the fly. I don't care about black people. I care about innocent Americans. A person who is stopped by, fights with, and runs from Police is not innocent. It is this willfulness that brings greater efforts from the Police to subdue them, often with tragic results. It doesn't matter if he's black or white. I know it's a popular trend to hold Police to perfection and turn a blind eye to the behavior of criminals, practically sanctifying them. But I don't ride that float. Our LEO's are humans too. And policing isn't pretty. The justice system will deal with it. That's my opinion.
     
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    Yep!
    The Chauvin & Thugs type of justice.
     
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    If you actually knew what you were talking about, you'd know that
    There was NO "criminal behavior" by Nichols.
    There was NO "race issue"...everyone involved were Black males.

    Bye Felecia.
     

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