Israel comes under heavy rocket fire from Gaza, suspected terror infiltration

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  1. Lil Mike

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    Not for nothing, but @flyboy56 is right about this. Puerto Ricans, in Puerto Rico, can't vote for US President.
     
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    You're misrepresenting events that occurred over half a century ago, and what these extremists are doing now is not a "rebellion." You don't plan a massive attack and gun down innocent people and take hostages in a rebellion.
     
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    Which would have never happened if the surrounding Arab countries did not invade Israel.

    And then in 1967 Jordan would not have lost the West Bank if they did not also once again attack Israel.

    Lesson? Bad things happen to the Arabs when they attack Israel.
     
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    But not Bibi, eh? I call bs on the way you've attempted to fine tune this one.
     
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    Israel's got a nation. Not all are Jews, even though it seems they demand to have a 100% pure religious ethnic state.
     
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    Same people who side with Russia also side with Hamas. Very telling.
     
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    That'll be a no-no, to think the removal of 100,000's of Arab civilians is somehow justified by pretending they are soldiers.
     
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    Palestine and Trans-Jordan bordered each other during the British Mandate period:
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirate_of_Transjordan#Relationship_with_Palestine

    "In early 1921, prior to the convening of the Cairo Conference, the Middle East Department of the Colonial Office set out the situation as follows:

    "Distinction to be drawn between Palestine and Trans-Jordan under the Mandate. His Majesty's Government are responsible under the terms of the Mandate for establishing in Palestine a national home for the Jewish people.

    "They are also pledged by the assurances given to the Sherif of Mecca in 1915 to recognise and support the independence of the Arabs in those portions of the (Turkish) vilayet of Damascus in which they are free to act without detriment to French interests.

    "The western boundary of the Turkish vilayet of Damascus before the war was the River Jordan. Palestine and Trans-Jordan do not, therefore, stand upon quite the same footing."
     
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    Much land has been lost to war. Israel is the only tiny strip of land in the region where it is safe to be critical of government. (Or be Jewish, Christian, gay, athieist, non-Muslim, critical of religion etc)
     
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    Good reporting here about the victims, talking to their relatives, and showing footage from the festival that I at least haven't seen previously.
     
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    It started half a centaury ago, and as we all know,.. Israel still is enlarging their colonies across their border, which is a war crime and it is at the expense of the Palestinians. This attack of Hamas is the product of half a centaury of violent racist oppression by Israel and all those who joined the IDF and voted for it's governments.
     
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    And it ends in the Balfour Declaration that it's to be clearly understood that the civil rights of the indigenious Arab population may not be compromised.
     
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    Even worse things happened when British imperialists backed European Zionists in their quest to turn Palestine into a Jewish State; there were ten times as many non-Jews as Jews living there at that time and many Jews did not want such a state to come into existence

    In 1948 five Arab armies entered the fight after Jews began driving 700,000 Arabs from their villages and towns. Those five armies prevented the Zionist takeover of all of Palestine until 1967 when Israel, once again, struck first while murdering 34 of it allies in the Mediterranean Sea:

    https://www.usslibertyveterans.org/

    "ON JUNE 8, 1967, while patrolling in international waters in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel.

    "Of a crew of 294 officers and men (including three civilians), the ship suffered thirty four (34) killed in action and one hundred seventy three (173) wounded in action.

    "The ship itself, a Forty Million ($40,000,000) Dollar state of the art signals intelligence (SIGINT) platform, was so badly damaged that it never sailed on an operational mission again and was sold in 1970 for $101,666.66 as scrap."
     
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    It's not safe. It's a massively militarized society because they endlessly keep on enlarging their colonies across the border. And having them is a war crime, and it's racially motivated why they are doing this.
     
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    This of what the Hamas is doing is totally uncalled for and they have no right doing this. The Hamas cannot be trusted as far as this situation is concerned. The killing of hostages is out and out wrong no matter what anyone else says about it. I hope the Hamas pay for their terrors. There is no good reason for this, and I mean it. That's all I's going to say for now.
     
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    Why are you starting the story in 1947?

    Go back a little further and tell the rest of the story.
     
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    Sane people recognize those supporting US puppets in Ukraine and Israel side with the forces of for-profit war regardless of the number of dead civilians.
     
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    In some cases, the internet made people stupider.
     
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    How some people can defend terrorism on this forum is absolutely astounding to me.

    It says everything that needs to be said about these people.
     
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    Why do so the pro-palestinian want to start the clock in 1947 and 1948 to defend terrorism?

    Because if they go back any further, their claim of victimization is easily seen as absolute BS and they know it.

    So they play victim and tell half stories.
     
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    It's the terrorists YOU support killing civilians.
     
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    They are the victims, because Israel has been violently oppressing the Arabs over 60 years straight.
    They first started with kicking out Arab citizens by the 100,000's. To expand into Palestine with their colonies making it impossible for them to have any kind of reasonable self sustaining nation. While the ethnic cleansing as well as the colonies are war crimes, all done by the barrel of their tanks. Nobody is making Israel do these war crimes. This is on it's government, for all these decades who got voted in by majority and a population who massively joins the army to commit those war crimes. So while most are civilians, it doesn't make them adults exactly totally innocent. And all of this should not be news to you.

    And Israel kills the most civilians by far.
     
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    Let's remember that these people only live to bring about Armageddon.
     
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