Trump barred from being President of Colorado.

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  1. Xyce

    Xyce Well-Known Member

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    The problem with using opinionated theatrical language as a basis to remove the American people's right to choose whom they want to elect is, well, that it's opinionated theatrical language. Trump has a basis for not believing he lost the election. The 2020 presidential election was not par for the course; it was not conducted like the 2016 election, for example. There was an astronomical implementation of mail-in voting, which has a positive correlation with fraud. Therefore, your claim that "all the evidence" indicates that he lost is incorrect, since mail-in voting leads to more voter fraud. There is ample evidence to support that claim. Had the 2020 election been conducted in the same fashion as the 2016 election was, and he made the claims that he made, I would be more willing to back you up on the "all the evidence" claim, but it wasn't. That is a fact. It truly was insane how long it took for us to know who actually "won" in that election. Days! Does Trump have proof? No, but proof of a stolen election can take decades to establish.

    Once again, you people claim that you love democracy, that you want to protect democracy, despite "all the evidence" that your actions indicate otherwise, all the evidence being you want to remove the American people's rights to vote for the person whom they want to vote for, not to mention your willingness to remove basic safeguards to election integrity, such as increasing mail-in voting, even though there is a known positive correlation with fraud, and fighting against voter ID laws on the baseless, racist claim that black people can't get IDs. And let's not forget a majority of House Democrats voting to allow 16-year-olds to vote, even though their prefrontal cortex, which is responsible for long-term decision making, is even less developed than at 18. Allowing 16-year-olds to vote would water down the process, nullifying the votes of the people who actually pay attention and have the mental faculties to maturely make long-term decisions for our republic. In short, it would be antithetical to democracy.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cheating with mail in ballots wasn't enough for the shady left? Now they want to just remove candidates all together? This is gonna come back to bite them HARD and I'll be here with a container to catch all the tears
     
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    So why the fear to let voters decide? No court has ever ruled there was an insurrection on Jan. 6th. No faith in voters to decide whether or not there was an insurrection? Those Colorado Judges are not elected officials. They have their own bias.
     
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    What happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"? Who would have ever thought the state of Colorado would become a "banana republic". If the people of Colorado, and the other states, want to take their country back (We the people) they need to vote for Trump, either mark the ballot or write-in his name on the ballot. There's more at stake here than just one man trying to run for president.
     
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    Unarmed? Nowhere that I know. Only the January 6 insurrection. But that one was armed .
     
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    WRONG!!! Dear God.... what is Fox telling these guys?
     
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    ???? If I recall correctly, I watched the Senate vote acquitting him on CSPAN. AND even if I had watched it on FOX, cant imagine what is your point.
     
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  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Imagine that the Supreme Court agrees with Colorado and Trump is not allowed to run. That would simply mean another MAGA takes his place. And if that other MAGA doesn't win, they'll say he wasn't MAGA enough and just keep trying until one of them succeeds. And it's unavoidable that one of them will, at some point. What is the difference between a President Trump and a President Ramaswamy? Of course, Vivek has neither the brains nor the appeal. But just imagine somebody like him in the WH.

    Even though Trump is the face and symbol of MAGA-fascism he, personally, is not the problem. The problem is MAGA-ism. And the ONLY way to make MAGA-ism irrelevant is to defeat their deity in the elections. Yes... it's a risk. But one we MUST take.
     
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    Oh yes, a Capitol Policeman did shoot ashli Babbit! Now Fort Sumter, that is what I would call an armed insurrection. If Jan. 6th was an "armed insurrection" that would have been proven in a court of law. When that Trannie bared his breasts for the cameras on the White House Lawn...... I would say that was closer to an armed insurrection than Jan 6th!
     
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    I will probably get in trouble with the mods, but I HAVE to answer your question honestly... Yes! Exactly that kind of culties. Trump will still be around. And even among non-culties he will rise to the level as a martyr.... and idea and a symbol. And one of them WILL win. If they don't in 2024, at SOME point.

    That's where you're wrong. There are MANY Trumps. They don't have the celebrity status... yet. But Trump can give it to them. And his martyrdom will give him MORE, not less, control of his party. More MAGAs in congress.

    The security of the United States is already at risk with the Marges, Gaetzs and Jordans in government. And there will be MORE, not less, in the coming years if Trumpism is not defeated at the polls. Our ONLY hope is that being a MAGAism becomes what McArthysm became in the 1950s: a recipe for losing elections.
     
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  11. Golem

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    NO! The Senate CANNOT acquit him. Read the constitution please! Only The House has the power of Impeachment. Doesn't matter if the Senate convicts him or not. His impeachment STANDS.
     
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    LOLOL! Yet another demonstration you dont have a clue.
     
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    It HAS! What did you think the Supreme Court of Colorado is, if not a court of law? A Tennis Court?
     
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    A small, Partisan court that wants to effect the outcomes of a National election! Why are they so scared? Hard to fix elections anymore??
     
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    The time has come for his loyalists to choose another candidate.
     
  16. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The "deep state" is everywhere. You WILL be assimilated. Resistance is futile!

    For some there is probably no happier bliss than living in a small world in which anything you disagree with is explained away with a conspiracy theory. But not very useful in a Political discussion forum.

    You wanted a court of law, you GOT a court of law. Hopefully next time you'll stick to your conspiracy theory from the beginning and we can go on to the final inevitable outcome: not taking you seriously.
     
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    No thanks! We will fight off the left's push for marxism ALL THE WAY. What you lefties are gonna end up with by doing all this overreaching is the exact opposite of what you want, a world thats like that show Handmaid's tale. Extremism just leads to more extremism. I can't wait to watch ya'll squirm in this messy bed you made for yourselves. Also, your comment was a THREAT and i'm pretty sure that isn't allowed on here. I'll be making a list whenever I see it. KthanksBYE
     
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    Supreme court deciding a civil case with 6 voters bringing a civil suit against the secretary of state of Colorado.
     
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    Please define "Marxism" and how that is "like that show Handmaid's tale"
     
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    You know the argument here Golem. This is "lawfare". Insurrection was NEVER ruled in the actions of Jan 6th. It seems those of you trying to usurp a National election by judicial proxies are looking FOR an armed insurrection to insure the democratic elections of our leaders. Great care has been attempted to make sure our elections are honest this time and now there are those of you that want to bypass it.
     
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    Being charged or convicted is immaterial.
     
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    That small world was defined when Trump was impeached twice by a partisan vote and the Senate never convicted or Russia Russia Russia,or Hunter's laptop Russian disinformation, or the FBI never spied on Trump's campaign, the list goes on and on. Your idea of a "political discussion" is to accuse your adversaries of "living in a small world" or just being ignorant. Not highly indoctrinated as you are. The elite is not going to decide the next election.
     
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    Only laws that you agree with. This is another reenactment of Animal Farm.
     
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    Well thats not true. The secessionist movements of California National Party and California Freedom Coalition were anything but 'MAGA', and Yes California wanted to secede simply because Trump was president.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_and_secession_in_California
     
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