Trump Is Disqualified From the 2024 Ballot, Colorado Supreme Court Rules

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  1. Noone

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    No, that’s not how it works. You brought them up, you back then up. You’ve already failed on your first attempt.
     
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    No rioters? I don’t know?

    This is about a Colorado Supreme Court decision. Quit changing the subject, start a thread if you want.
     
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    Yet another fake leftist claim shot down in flames just like their claim of the officer who was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher.

    The DC medical examiner ultimately ruled her cause of death was an amphetamine overdose. Not being crushed to death.
    Not to mention she had dozens of arrest for selling drugs as well.
    What else did you want to throw on the wall.
     
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  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Many of the blue states are, as I understand it. Don't know about Repubs.
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    I won't waste my time.
    You couldn't dispute one as per usual.
    Thats good enough for me
     
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    Proof you are unable to back claims - good enough for me
     
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    So? I was wrong. There is a first time for everything however an argument could be made that had those people not been extorted to be there……

    As for the police officers - the way is open for the civil lawsuit against Trump to be started.
    https://apnews.com/article/jan-6-riot-lawsuits-donald-trump-capitol-14b219df31b3a5ebec43e979ad36587a
     
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  8. Condor060

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    Best of luck with that hail mary
     
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    You mean the Trump “Hail Mary” that presidents are above the law?
     
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    You mean like the one where I just slammed about your crushed rioter. lol
     
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    they are as afraid of him as the democrats are
     
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  12. Patricio Da Silva

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    That's a Trump talking point. The fact is. among democrats the conventional wisdom is what we have a better chance of winning WITH Trump on the ballot, though he could still win. Despite this, many of us want him off the ballot because he engaged in an insurrection against the US Constitution, and by that fact, is disqualified and more importantly UNFIT as poses a clear and present danger to American democracy, which, if you don't mind, we'd like to preserve. The best way to preserve democracy is to eliminate any possibility of Trump ever getting near the nuclear codes, again. Hell, I think the odds of him beating all 92 felony counts are slim, he's going to be a felon, and by that fact alone, should be deemed unfit. And there is this, a quarter of Trump voters believe he shouldn't be then nominee if he is convicted.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/20/us/politics/trump-poll-conviction-trials.html

    See above.
     
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    Is Kamala Harris above the law telling rioters they should not let up while they were actually killing people and destroying billions in property

    Is Ayanna Pressley above the law telling rioters There needs to be unrest in the streets while they were actually killing people and destroying billions in property
     
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    Not “afraid” more “repulsed”
     
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    Yet Trump was acquitted of insurrection in his second impeachment.
    Now what
     
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    you speaking for political parties in the USA now?
     
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    it's the racism of low expectations.
     
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    I have the opinion that Colorado overstepped its authority in this case, and whether or not Trump actually committed insurrection or not(for me, without an actual criminal conviction of said crime, naw man) is moot and here is why I think that:

    SCOTUS has already ruled on who an officer of the United States is and is not:

    1888(after the ratification of 14a in US v Mouat):

    "Unless a person in the service of the government, therefore, holds his place by virtue of an appointment by the president, or of one of the courts of justice or heads of departments authorized by law to make such an appointment, he is not, strictly speaking, an officer of the United States."

    That excludes the president.

    In 2010(Free Enterprise Fund v. Public Company Accounting Oversight Bd., 561 U.S. 477 (2010))

    “The diffusion of power carries with it a diffusion of accountability. The people do not vote for the “Officers of the United States.””

    That NECCESSARILY excludes the President, Vice President, and members of congress, all who are elected meaning 14a does not apply to the President(or in this case, Trump), therefore the insurrection bs(and it is bs) is moot. I have doubts they just “overlooked it and meant to include it” when the amendment was debated. Besides, as the leader of the country, who’s he going to overthrow? Himself? Like a Wookiee on Endor, it doesn’t make any sense.

    When it comes to presidential eligibility in regards to the states, that has also has its limits. They cannot allow a 30 year old on the ballot for president, for example. They have certain powers, but making a declaration as was made is not one.

    If he appeals(why wouldn’t he? He’s a megalomaniac and a narcissist and doesn’t want to “lose”) and it goes to SCOTUS(and I believe it will, it’s pretty important jurisprudence), it will be overturned. In the end, he will be on the primary ballot. Why? With the stay in place, Trump has to appeal by Jan 4, and on the 5th, the primary ballots have to be printed(at this point. Not sure on if they can change the deadline). They won’t hear and decide the case before that deadline. When I get my primary ballots(as an unaffiliated voter in Colorado, I get both parties primary ballots, but can only vote in one of them) I’ll see what I can do about taking a picture yet not giving any of my info away.

    I also find it odd how a court determined, without a criminal trial, that a criminal act occurred and a specific person was guilty of that, and it isn’t even that courts jurisdiction to be able to declare that(that was a declaration that Trump was guilty of committing a federal crime, not a state crime, whether you like that idea or not, and states do not try federal crimes). That’s not due process, it’s just another Wookie on Endor.

    I love living in Colorado. Politics stink everywhere, but they are not as awful here as when I was in Texas. At this point, I’m still voting Ann Richards for President though, and you should too!
     
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  19. Patricio Da Silva

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    Not in section 3 is it a criminal charge.
     
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    Criminally, but not administratively.
     
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    If SCOTUS rules he is disqualified from being president, that won’t just be in CO. He can’t be president. Same as a 22 year old. Same as a naturalized citizen.
     
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    You're describing the current GOP to a proverbial "T"
     
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    Of course not. CO will have done what CO, as administrator of the election in CO, was allowed to do. Administrate their own election. If Trump wins despite CO not allowing him on the CO ballot then he wins.
     
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    Trump was already acquitted on insurrection charges. Impeachment attempt #2
     
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    Not a criminal charge. Not a legal proceeding. An impeachment is a POLITICAL proceeding.
     
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