Trump barred from being President of Colorado.

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  1. dixon76710

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    And still there were no firearms in the Capitol.
     
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    All more smoke and mirrors, the effect of which will make him more popular as it does each time charges are brought against him. Very sad. The Supreme court is going to over turn it, no doubt in my mind.

    What are the basis for the insurrection claims again? Specifically what he said?
     
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    How is it an insurrection when police were inviting citizens in, even shot one?
     
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    No - the "insurrection" claims come from the plot to introduce fake electors and to pressure state election officials. Not so much about the riot.
     
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    Again, it's not so much about the riots as the fake electors and pressuring state election officials. That occurred over many weeks in coordination
    with others.
     
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    No the mangled html made it look that way.
     
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    I'm asking what he said specifically that "incited" the "insurrection"? I saw the speech back then, didn't note anything at that time that sounded anything close to instructing violence, in fact the opposite at times, so I'd like to know what they claim was an incite to violence.
     
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    When he called the Georgia secretary of state?

    Who else?
     
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    No, there were, several off duty police officers that PARTICIPATED had service weapons. Really-really! :wtf:
     
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    Riiiight. They prosecuted people for walking through the capitol and nothing more, but they didnt prosecute those who were armed with firearms and walking through the capitol.
     
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    And how is it a Trump led insurrection when he preapproved the stationing of National guard troops at the Capitol that Nancy Pelosi wouldnt approve.
     
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    Did you read that before you posted it? Do you "invite into your home" and then "shoot one"? :roll:
     
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    You're not this naive are you?
     
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    Here's a list of people prosecuted and the weapon(s) they carried.

    Several firearms, LOT's of knives, crowbars, baseball bats, stun guns, ax handles, police batons, taser's, pipes, rebar, even an ice ax. Not to mentions all the flag poles with spear tips. :shock:
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    I've never thought of myself as naive or ever been called naive; no. What do you mean, "this"?

    N the same sentence you claimed "people were invited in" and "one was shot". It seems to me you're the one that's naive if you think it's normal to invite people in and then shoot one. :wtf:
     
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    Except when I was teaching, I worked for the money.

    So I guess they could include a sense of giving back through public service.

    Guys like Kelly and Mattis might have worked for the Orange Oaf for the good of the country.
     
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    Do you think the head of the Biden Crime Family worked for giving back through public service? Ha! He's made millions and it's all he has ever done.
     
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    At least the one that shot Ashli Babbit.
     
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    Wow! With those weapons your ready to take on Navy Seals, U.S. Marines or just about anybody. Insurrection? Piece of cake!!!
     
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    That's funny! YOU'RE "questioning" my "intelligence" and you can't even spell Intelligence. That's hilarious!!! Thanks, good one. LOL
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    So, it's been established that, yes, there were some Capitol Police that were part of the insurrection, there were also several instance where the Capitol police were so outnumbered they didn't even try to resist. The fact remains that the Capitol Police were outnumbered four to five to one. And, the insurrectionists sent approximately 150 of them to the hospital with serious to very serious wounds, some bad enough that the individual had to quit policing for a living.

    She was NOT "behind" a barrier she was going through the barrier when she was shot, in spite of several of her co-insurrectionists repeatedly calling out that they saw a gun. The barrier just happened to be the only thing between Congress people and 25 to 30 manic insurrectionists, of whom Babbitt was one of, if not THE leader. It's tragic that she was shot, it's tragic that she was called to be there by tRaitor tRump.

    EVERYTHING in this post for openers.

    What you said about Ashli Babbitt was wrong, she was not "behind" the barrier she was going through it when she was shot. And the video you posted has been edited to make her look less complicit and as horrific as possible. Not that a woman being shot isn't horrible.

    But, your video leaves out what actually led up to and, why she was shot. Ashli Babbitt was shot because she left the officer, that was the last defense between Congress and her faction of insurrectionists, no choice.

    So, yeah a few of the insurrectionists were let in, but for the most part it was a very violent day, the Capitol Police were way outnumbered and, it's a miracle that more people, on both sided, weren't hurt or killed.

     
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    I'd like to see some links that prove tRaitor tRump "approved" the National guard prior to the insurrection.
     
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    The bullet did not go "through the barrier"

    The "barrier" was a door with full length glass flanked by two full length glass panes. Behind the door (in plain view) chairs had been stacked to prevent the doors from opening. The rioters had broken all of the glass on on the right pane had been completely removed and Babbit was being lifted up so she could climb over the stacked chairs. She was told to back off. She was partially through where the glass pane had been and was starting to climb over the chairs when she was shot.
     
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    At 0:05 you can hear the glass shattering

    https://twitter.com/bellingcat/status/1347253404012261377

    And who cares? Someone got shot, was the point, was it not? Questionable Intelligence denies that this happened.

    After that makes sense, keep watching and you'll see there were law enforcement on the side that Babbit was on that could have handled the issue fine. The officer on the other side of the barrier did not need to shot her. Lastly my statement that "one was shot" is accurate.

    Maybe questionable intelligence can think about the meaning of words rather than get triggered into presenting him/herself as questionably intelligent?
     
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