Thank you Donald Trump!

that's a non response. Trump was a better leader than the senile POS you all support. My advice is for you to stop pretending that I have any need of your advice or that I care about your claims.

 

As usual you end up going to a safe space rabbit hole. Is it so hard to face the reality that the ULTRA MAGA cult leader is a scumbag POS that's responsible for offing some of his own voters?! Rhetorical....

 

A nice theory until you consider the vote in states like Kansas and Ohio.

Yes, you could kill someone with asthma.

A fine example of reasoning from the specific to the general.

 

one thing I noted years ago on this board, about lefties is that they cannot possibly fathom that others have different views and different agendas. I have constantly admitted that if your most important issues are
1) gay rights
2) abortion rights
3) doing less work for more money (ie UNIONS)
4) redistributing income
5) cutting spending on law enforcement and or the military while increasing social welfare

You clearly are correct in voting for Democrats. You make claims that you can't possibly back up and assume that everyone has to support the leftwing authoritarian agenda that Biden pushes

 

You're probably another rightwinger who thinks Trump made the economy better. He didn't.

Economic growth in Trump's first three years was almost identical to Obama's last three.

 

women who have abortions tend to be UNMARRIED, and lower income. what sort of children do those women produce? ones who are more likely to be Democrats and criminals.

Asthma won't kill me if my wife has it-you clearly missed the obvious point-my doctor told me to get vaccinated because my wife has asthma and AT THE TIME we were told that those who are vaccinated won't infect others.

 

And self reduced to more deflection desperate flailing after you felt compelled to quote me and then faceplant. That was too easy...since Agent Orange killed off quite a few of his own voters with his B/S on hydroxy.....denial ain't going to change that reality.

 

My economy was better under Trump. I also wasn't paying 4 dollars a gallon for Trump. I find it amusing that those who don't tend to do as well in real world economics are quick to tell those who do how the economy works. You also miss a key point-often what presidents do does not impact the economy for years.

 

could affect outcome of election if they were from swing States

 

prove that-I bet you cannot. More have died under Biden. you lefties called Trump a racist when he tried to restrict flights from China (the place that owns Biden and where COVID came from)

 

Because Trump let it get out of control

"15 going on zero", how many cases when Trump kicked the can to Biden?

 

Why are you siding with anti-union types?

We need to do something about this...

 

the question no one answers is this
1) would they have died if they had not used that stuff

and given the failures of other treatments a couple years ago, what were the alternatives?

BTW lots of people who "died of COVID" were killed by other things

example country/folk singer John Prine. He had had neck, jaw cancer and lung cancer. his immune system was torn up. a guy I grew up with who worked in the industry noted that Prine never really was free of cancer.

 

tell us what he should have done-based on the information at the time and why he should have done that

 

because Unions are deleterious to corporate profits and to American competitiveness

 

Exactly!!. The question remains , why would people listen to a politicism for health care ?? As opposed to the medical staff who obviously knew as much as could be known for what was the best treatment.
And then there are the anti vaxxers. Who go by some BELIEF as pposed to what science tells them.
With all the information that has been available.... why do people keep making dangerous decisions??

This is truly an eg of "drinking the Kool-Aid" And we all knwhowthat ended up.

Trump believed he knew better than any medical personnel. Now that is insane. He was irresponsible , but so were those that took his "advice". They were foolish to do so without even questioning the validiy of same.

 

Prove what, that you are desperate to be chased down a comfort rabbit hole while denying the OP and hydroxy killing off Trump's own voters?! The OP that you are running from already proves that. The topic is hydroxy and that it's killed many of those who took it on Trump's encouragement.

 

you have to prove Trump killed people. that sounds like actionable defamation to me. You need to prove that these people took it purely because of Trump (good luck with that), and that if they had not taken it they would not have died (another issue you cannot prove) and that other remedies would have worked

 

I have to what? Stop with the nonsense denials, the OP already links the chain of events and who pushed it. Get a grip on reality and feel free to put your money where your mouth is.

 

Instead of promoting some form of "treatment" himself......he should have promoted and been consistent with the medical personnel. As usual helet his personal bias against others get in the way of what was best for the population.
It was a big crisis, and consistent information based on medical facts was imperative. He made everting political. Once the vaccines were available , he should have been consistent in encouraging everyone to get them.
In one of the biggest challenges of his term.....he only proved himself to be dangerous. Bad mouthing medical personnel the way he does everyone that he sees as completion to him showed how inept he was as a leader.

 

there are dozens of articles that showed researchers in other countries pushed that drug. Many of the deaths were in other countries. it is a lie to pretend Trump is responsible for those deaths-especially at a time where no one knew what worked.

 

his America and his judges are far better for many of us than the creeping crud of collectivism pushed By Biden. to pretend you or any of the other Trump bashers had the answer in 2020 for covid is just plain wrong. and where do you think Trump got the idea to use that drug? You all pretend there was an established and tested protocol for dealing with severe cases of covid. THAT WAS NOT THE CASE

 

He does not have to PROVE anything. This is not a court of law. By virtue of trump promoting such a" treatment" ,makes him responsible for the deaths that occurred as a result of listening to him. Cause and effect. Not rocket science.

IF Biden has promoted some "treatment"....... many would scream that he is not a physician and has no right to do so. Trump had NO right to promote anything the just HE thought as treatment. But he did have a responsibility to support the medical personnel who worked so hard dealing with the crisis. He did not even do that.

 

and many of them were in foreign countries

many of them chose that drug in a time where there was nothing that was working and because some researchers said it might work. You all pretend Trump came up with this idea in a vacuum

https://www.euronews.com/next/2024/...may-have-induced-17000-deaths-new-study-finds

This molecule was presented during the pandemic as a miracle cure by a minority of health professionals, among them the French microbiologist Didier Raoult.

The scientist’s belief that the drug was a cure for COVID-19 was soon echoed by some policymakers. French President Emmanuel Macron notably visited his facility and US President Donald Trump recommended the drug in 2020, stating that he had already taken it.

 

you wonder why this thread was created-did the Trump haters run out of stuff to complain about?