Nikki's taking off the gloves.

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    why is the left so vested in trying to convince themselves that this is a racist country?
     
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    the only institutionalized racism left now is affirmative racism that harms whites, Asians and yes, blacks but for different reasons and that is mainly supported by democrats
     
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    Desantis' surrender to the obvious and endorsing Trump puts the fait in the accompli so to speak. Haley is unlikely to win in New Hampshire though she might make it close New Hampshire being college town USA. But she is likely to get hammered every where else. Even should something happen to Trump pivot will still be to Desantis rather than to Haley
     
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    Yeah, but DS is out now.

    But you're right, her only hope is if Trump has a health issue. So we have another Biden/Harris presidency to look forward to.
     
  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He would put Jeffrey Dahmer on the ticket if he thought it would help him win.
     
  6. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We'll find out what the outcome is pretty soon.

    When will No Labels determine whether to offer its ballot line to a Unity ticket?
    No Labels will determine whether to move forward shortly after March 15, 2024.
    https://www.nolabels.org/unity-ticket-faqs
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The primary system calls for Repubs to choose on or the other.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Senate Dems and Repubs were close to a compromise House Repubs intend to sabotage.
     
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    Haley is about to find out what it's like to get the full attention of the Orange Menace. She was capable of handling the slap fight with the now vanquished miniTrump. But not the sledgehammer that's about to hit her wielded by an obese, orange, school yard bully with a dead squirrel on top of his head.
     
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    Good point which is why Trump is not going to pick Nikki Haley because she offers nothing to his candidacy and because his base 80 plus million strong does not like her. She is a Democrat darling who is a member of the Establishment. Trump learned his lesson during his time as president. He will not let a spy be a part of his inner circle this time.
     
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    I am not saying anything. The data show majority Baby boomers are conservative, and majority younger generation are liberal/Democrat.

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    If conservatives want to be a relevant political party 15-20 years from now, then GOP needs to figure out what younger generation wants. Calling them “ Public teat sucklers” is not going to get younger generation to vote for republican.
     
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    Perhaps they can persuade fewer people to learn more.

    WHY PETERBOROUGH MATTERS
    If Haley manages even to come close to beating Trump tomorrow, she is likely to run strong in towns like Peterborough.

    A prosperous former mill town of 6,500 on the Contoocook River, Peterborough is one of only 14 New Hampshire towns that voted for John Kasich over Trump in 2016. It’s home to MacDowell, a venerable artist residency that has hosted James Baldwin, Willa Cather and Jonathan Franzen. Like Johnson County, Iowa — the only county Haley carried in last week’s caucuses — more than half of Peterborough’s residents 25 and older have bachelor’s degrees.

    • “If Haley doesn’t win my hometown, she has no shot,” said Dave Carney, a veteran Republican consultant who lives in Hancock, a nearby town that also backed Kasich in 2016.
    • “She needs to win towns like Hancock and Peterborough and Dublin by big margins” to offset the working-class communities in Rockingham County, where Trump is likely to win big, Carney said.
    https://s2.washingtonpost.com/camp-...c43&linknum=3&linktot=41&linknum=3&linktot=41
     
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    why are you so vested in trying to convince yourself that this is a racist country?
     
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    They were still negotiating the finer points in the plan. It wasn't exactly approved by either the GOP, Schumer, or Biden. There was a proposal by the GOP Freedom Caucus, but even that was DOA in the House per Rep. Johnson.
     
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    What prejudice? I would disagree to some extent. Door number one is Ron Desantis who at one moment in the campaign went after Trump for a brief period, even explaining his concerns and about what Trump does when a person or group kisses the ring or does not kiss the ring of DJT, but will vote for him anyway, even endorsed him. In Door, Number Two is John Sununu, governor of NH, who will vote for Trump as the GOP nominee in the general election even though he actively campaigned against them. This will apply to most of the GOP voter electorate who will vote in the general election, assuming they show up in the November election. The undeclared voters, the independents, will more than likely in some states, like NH, not vote for DJT in greater numbers because of DJT's comments about the US Constitution, his praise of communist and dictator leaders, and other groups and individuals. If there is 15% voter turnout in NH, Trump will win the GOP primary in NH, and Nikki Haley's campaign will all be assured of ceasing to exist once SC primary is over.

    Ironically, the quicker the GOP select Trump, it is actually better for Biden and groups they will court to vote in Novemember where most will "finally wake up" and will reluctantly vote for Biden rather than not vote at all.
     
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    It's a talking point that reinforces their coalition.
     
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    A deal was within easy reach had Biden gone all in.
     
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    Ah, the should've, would've, could've argument. Got it.

    Again, no one was agreeing to the deal, and a deal means compromise does it not?
     
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    Language is important here. I wouldn't use the term "racist country." But to deny our collective racism, past and present, is as foolish as saying no progress has been made in addressing it. The caveat being law does not stop the feelings in people's hearts.
     
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    1. I and many of my friends will likely gravitate to No Labels if the two parties give us Trump vs Biden II.
    2. The Governor of NH is Chris Sununu. John is his father.
    3. A Republican officeholder who wants a future in politics will certainly commit to supporting his/her party's nominee.
     
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    The votes were there, had Biden moved quickly. He was held back by supporters in his own coalition who don't want a deal.
     
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    A deal was within hard fought reach in the Senate after weeks of negotiation. House Repubs were always going to find a pretense to blow up an agreement in a presidential election year with so much of their focus on being critical of Biden regarding immigration.
     
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    That's false. It was not House Republicans who caused the WH to go slow.
     
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    Although Biden made the mistakes of the final pullout, most of the blame falls on Trump for negotiating with terrorists, the Taliban, that left the official Afghan government out of the loop. The Taliban negotiiations was through the point of a gun, and everyone knew that, well except Trump, his associates, and their supporters. Biden was hamstrung on the deal, but the mistakes given was part of the Taliban Chaos that ensured to take down the Afghan government. Now, Afghanistan is in a complete mess, with terrorist groups now in charge, and now have equipment in their hands that used to belong to the prior government, which we gave from Bush to Obama to Trump.

    That being said, the final days was about the same as the final days of US presence in Vietnam, 1975 where we were fleeing from the roof of the embassy, just barely.
     
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    Yes it was considering that the House is divided, could not even approve their own bills for Christ's sake. That is why there is now more talk by MTG and a few other hard right Republicans of calling to oust Mike Johnson.
     
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