No bad deed goes unpunished in tbe USA?

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  1. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    The expression is meant to mean that doing a good deed for someone can result in a bad deed in return, but in the USA it seems to me that if you are part of any activity which a person feels aggrieved about (right or wrong) if they feel aggrieved, ipso facto, they are gunning for you and if they get a chance to harm, they will harm.

    Revenge. Vengeance.

    Have I got that right?
     
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    Is this part of a legal argument? I'm not an expert, so take this with a grain of salt, but here in New York State, the last time I took a CPR/first aid training, they said that many places have good samaritan laws. That is legal protection for people who stop to help in an emergency. They can't be charged with a crime or be sued in court for any injuries caused while rendering aid.
     
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    Yes you do. But just in the total opposite way from which you imagine it.
     
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  4. Bush Lawyer

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    Care to explain?
     
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    You are imagining Trump as the perpetrator. But actually, Trump is more of an example as a recipient of this phenomena going on in society.

    You talk about "revenge" from Trump, but just what do you think this revenge is for??
    You obviously seem unwilling to see (or admit) the nature of what was done to him.
     
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  6. Bush Lawyer

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    I never had Humpty*** in mind when I made the OP.

    *Rapist
    *Swindler
    *Bordering on pathological
     
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    Well then, you are aware that the Bible has plenty to say on this topic, aren't you?
     
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    You should probably look to your own Nation to answer your question because human nature is not any different there than it is here.
     
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    So, you agree with the OP, but want to make the point that you reckon the same applies elsewhere?
     
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    Then it's it some Israel thing?
     
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    I don't agree with anything you say. Unless there are polar conditions down in the underworld.

    Could you please enlighten us on what your USA bashing thread has to do with politics?

    You don't have any Humpty bad topics to cover tonight?
     
  12. Bush Lawyer

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    So, you disagree with the OP. Fine by me.
     
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    So you like to eat tender kittens roasted over an open fire.... Fine by me.
    They are considered feral there after all...
     
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    A couple recent experiences to demonstrate what people are like in my region of the USA.

    About 3 weeks ago a person in Kansas purchased a working livestock guardian dog from me. Most don’t know about it, but there is a quite large network of professional “animal transport” entrepreneurs in the US. Some specialize in certain areas—race or show horses or just dogs for example. Others will transport just about anything from camelids, to Zebu, to dairy goats, to show cattle.

    Anyway, the buyer of the guard dog contracted with a transporter. She showed up at my place after dark one evening with a half trailer load of goats she was taking to Oklahoma I believe. We loaded the dog, chatted for a bit about how inflation has impacted the lives of people who make a living on the road, and she headed out to Kansas.

    Near a tiny town in Kansas early the next morning (still dark) she hit a patch of black ice and had a minor accident. Bad enough to cause the back trailer doors to come open and the dog to escape but minor enough she could continue on her way after a few quick repairs. Transporters carry insurance of course and standard procedure would be for the contractors insurance to compensate the animal owner. But that wasn’t good enough for this lady. She immediately posted on local social media groups for missing pets, notified not only the owner, but me as well. She contacted animal control in the surrounding area as well and gave them contact information for the new owner and myself before continuing on to deliver to Oklahoma.

    About 24 hours after the dog disappeared, I was contacted by a lady from the small Kansas town. She told me the dog was located but it was still shook up enough it wouldn’t come to anyone. She, her son, and two other random citizens from the area were spending their Saturday looking for this dog and keeping it under observation when they located it. I jumped in a pickup and headed to Kansas to catch the dog before dark. Before I had driven 30 miles the lady and her son called me again, telling me another random local had shown up with his daughter and thought the dog trusted the daughter enough to be caught by her. I was given the phone number of the father/daughter so we could communicate.

    Within another 20 minutes the young girl had the dog caught and on the way to her dad’s garage where they kept it until I got there 3 hours later. The dog had been fed, watered, brushed, and pampered over that 3 hours. The new owner of the dog was away from home on business so I brought the dog back home with me.

    The lady with her son that located the dog told me when I asked how she got involved “it’s what we do”. We like to help people and often spend weekends doing things like locate missing animals or helping clean up after a flood or tornado somewhere. Nobody involved would accept compensation of any kind. All were friendly, competent, and genuinely happy to help. Over the next two days I had calls from multiple animal shelters and law enforcement agencies in the area inquiring if the animal had been found or what else they could do to help.

    Last week a prairie fire came close to burning out a farm I have in a county to the north of my home place. We have quite a few horses, donkeys and assorted camelids on the place. When it was clear the place was in the path of the fire only 45 miles away and moving at close to 40 mph at times, my wife started evacuating animals while I started the pivot irrigation system on the windward side of the property and came down to my home place to hook a tractor onto the disk to take back up to disk firebreaks. One neighbor lady went with my wife to help load horses. About 30 seconds after I drove past another neighbor’s place with the tractor, he called me. He said, “you are going to get your disk, aren’t you?” Yep. He said he would go hook on a trailer with the pickup and hook up their disk and for me to call if we needed help.

    By the time I got back up to the place threatened by the fire with my disk that neighbor was already there with his stock trailer helping my wife load and haul animals. While all this was going on I was also in contact with other neighbors in the area discussing who had fields of rye or disked fields close enough to each other’s cow herds the cows could be driven to safety on these fields if need be.

    Luckily the wind went down and the fire was contained a few miles from my place. Volunteer fire departments from about half the state had come to help. The family members of the volunteer department in the town closest to my farm were gathering donated food to feed them all when I stopped there to get up to date information on the fire.

    Social media sites were also a source of information. Locals would comment when the fire reached their area etc. As soon as someone would report the fire in their area, comments would show up offering fenced pasture outside the danger zone for those effected to move animals to, as well as offers of trailers to move animals etc.

    I’m happy and proud to be part of this kind of community. Yeh, maybe there’s tension between neighbors when one bids another up on a land auction or lease. But none of that seems to matter when the chips are down. Where I live isn’t anything like what’s postulated in the OP.
     
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    The same sort of experiences happen around here in the aftermath of a hurricane.

    The store where I work often has a charity jar on the counter for those in need in our community.

    It's funny how people who don't live here love to bash people here. This is nothing but a hate on the USA thread with no particular point other than that.

    Remember that those that hate you the most watch you the hardest
     
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    Then, what are you referring to?
     
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    I’ve been through a good share of the US the last couple decades. I’ve found good, honest, helpful folks everywhere including Oregon, Oklahoma, Minnesota, Arizona, etc. etc.

    There are some bad apples and some baskets here and there full of bad apples, but the vast land mass of the US is populated by folks who will give the shirt off their back. They’ve even been known to travel across oceans to fight and die to give folks like the OP the benefits of freedom if they choose it.


    “There's a lot of haters out there. Instead of focusing on improving themselves they prefer to spend their time chatting **** about you. But it just goes to show you - you must be doing something right if you're getting all the time and attention!”
    ——Lisa Newton,
     
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