Is France being lost to Muslims? Is all of Western Europe following?

Dat's right...

... purt soon dem Frenchies gonna be wearin' hajibs...

... an' eatin' crepes falafala.

 

You're nothing if not frank.

 

And what can we say about you? "You are as stupid as an African" is how you choose to insult the whole of the United States?

You are a truly a disgrace* to France.

* Un véritable disgrace. Un truther honteux.

 

Remember, there are no attackers. There is a bold and resolute refusal to be cowed by attackers who do not exist. The French government is so brave in the face of terrorists who have not yet, perhaps, even been born that it is offering illiberal, authoritarian and quite possibly illegal insults to the population from which the hypothetical, theoretical terrorists might be drawn.

There are hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens living in France. What sort of Western self-hatred prevents the French government from inventing some pointless provocation - banning baseball, perhaps, or the wearing of baseball-caps by people not actually playing the sort - to rile them up and see how they react?

 

And if thine aunt had cojones, she would be thine uncle.

Why do you let the Amish dress like that? Are you chicken? Cluck, cluck, cluck - how beaten down by The Man do you have to be...

 

Which is why we British drove you out of Vietnam.

There are no garlic schools anywhere in the world, but if there were, they would be in France long before they were in Wales or Scotland.

* You are Joaquin Phoenix, you are taking the pee, and I claim my £5.

 

Didn't I learn from you European guys that the Franks were good (!) German people, and then they got agressively (?) turned into Frenchies?

 

This is perfect, evidence shows that the French are vampires, and so the garlic will work well to clean Europe from them.

British Vietnam = do you mean the Oxford 4?

P.S.: What is the correct name of the original Welsh and Scottish languages?

 

We already eat falafels. I can only recommend to buy them from Chez Hannah, 54 rue des Rosiers, 75004 Paris -- the best in town!

Caution: the owners are Jewish...

 

Banning clothing that covers one face is not a bad thing. What about criminals who pretend to be muslim women so they can wonder around the country unmolested. (*)(*)(*)(*) a religion that requires hiding ones face in order to practice it.

 

Yes, it is a concern. Just like the thieves dressed as Santa Claus around Christmas. Perhaps we should also ban Santa Claus' outfits?

http://www.wsmv.com/slideshow/news/22036942/detail.html

 

Your comparing something that happens once a year with something that happens every single day. Apples and Oranges.

Next Halloween costumes another once in a year event.

 

I didn't know that criminals who pretend to be muslim women so they can wonder around the country unmolested is something that happens every single day.

Hmmm, would you be so kind as to provide a link for your claim?

 

yup your a liberal.

 

You do realise that you supported his argument by immediately doubling the number of days which criminals can use to wander around in disguise? Then there's Oestre time, dressed as rabbits.

 

There is serious disconnect between what "European guys" say, and what you hear.

Frank (or "Franj") is the term Muslim peoples still use to describe all Westerners. Such as yourself.

 

Would you believe - Welsh?

Gaelic is the original language of parts of Scotland, the most remote and sparsely-populated parts (today) and it is still being taught as a second language to a few hundreds of children; there is one "all Gaelic" school (i.e. a school where mathematics and sports are taught in the Gaelic language) as against four hundred and fifty-five "all Welsh" schools.

There's no comparison between the two. Gaelic is almost dead even as a second language, Welsh is thriving as a first language.

And garlic is increasingly used in British cooking. Globalisation, you know (that and immigration from garlicky, often predominantly Muslims, countries).

 

Do you know why Gaelic is dying and Welsh is fairly thriving?

 

But nobody has done so. Balaclava helmets, ski masks, mirror shades - these are all quite legal in every country. If there were legislation somewhere on earth requiring all people to be fully recognisable at all times, and burqa-wearing Muslim women were inadvertently caught up in the enforcement of this legislation, then there would be a different debate to be had about religious freedom.

That would be a different debate to be conducted along these lines - Sikhs in many countries may ride motorcycles or work in construction without being required to wear helmets, Jewish butchers in most countries are exempted from the normal rules concerning "humane" stun-guns, so why cannot these (very few) women go around with their faces veiled? Heck, it's not as though you're likely to lose them in a crowd.

The (hopefully unconstitutional) ban on burqas in France has nothing to do with seeing people's faces, everything to do with their being an expression of a Muslim tradition. As such, it is an appalling infringement of human rights. I won't go so far as to say that such a thing could never happen in America, because laws and constitutions are merely pieces of paper, but I'll say this much - you couldn't institute such viciously discriminatory and Islamophobic laws as France has introduced (during its "loss" to Muslims) without making a awful lot of lawyers awfully rich.

 

I nominate you for the worst cultural critic on this site. Do I get a second someone?

 

For sure? No I don't. But I can make a few observations that might shed some more light.

I've met a very few Teuchters who've been close enough to Gaelic culture to have picked up the language if they'd wanted to make the effort (which, by the way, is a very few more than the majority of people in Britain have ever met) but I've never met anyone who could do more than sing a song or repeat a phrase or two. These were people from the Outer Hebrides, a part of the world where children work tremendously hard at school - driven by an ambition to get off the bloody island and live a life in a community of more than a few dozen families. Gaelic, although they all expressed a romantic kind of affection for the old culture and hoped that someone else would keep it alive, would only hold them back.

The heartland of the Welsh language is also remote and rural enough to have maintained a distinct culture for centuries but - it's only the north of Wales. These last hundred years, what with railways and motorways, you could live there and work in e.g. Liverpool or even in Dublin more easily than someone from the Gaelic heartland can get to Inverness for a monthly shopping trip. It's not cut off in the same way at all so, when linguistic revival movements began at the end of the nineteenth century,there was an existing, Welsh-speaking population just finding that modern transport was opening the rest of Wales (and Europe) to them. At just that time in history, their Gaelic-speaking equivalents were increasingly finding that the modern world had passed their whole lifestyle by, and they were all moving to Glasgow or Nova Scotia and learning English.

Gaelic was never the majority language in Scotland (even though it was the language of the mediaeval Scots who gave the country its name). Glasgow was, historically, a Welsh-speaking city, Edinburgh an English-speaking city, Aberdonians and Dundonians spoke the now completely lost Pictish language, then there was Norse in Caithness and the Orkneys and Shetland... For a Victorian in South Wales whose family had not spoken Welsh for centuries, it seemed quite easy and natural to "reclaim" his Welsh-language heritage from his northern neighbours' safekeeping at the other end of a new and convenient rail link - for a lowland Scots contemporary, everything was much more complex.

There is a dialect of English called "Lowland Scots". As I enjoy telling my Scots friends, it's a branch of Northumbrian English, but that doesn't detract from the fact that it exists and it was the official, governmental form of English used by an independent Scots government right up until the eighteenth century. Most Scots Nationalists peg the linguistic side of their identity to that English dialect. There is no Welsh equivalent, no distinct "South Wales English". There's a very marked accent, quite musical to the ear an all, but no written language as such, and certainly nothing of political importance like old law codes or proceedings of a Welsh parliament.

Until my parent's generation, the London government did nothing to encourage the survival of older languages; there were certainly no schools and television channels etc such as my generation grew up with. But not bothering to preserve the Welsh language is a different matter from actively trying to stamp out the Gaelic language. England-and-Wales have been hyphenated since a Welsh king took the throne of England in 1485. Back then, nobody's peasants understood anyone else's peasants if they lived a few days away from each other. But the Highlands and Islands of Scotland were only fully brought under governmental control when the (seventeen) forty-five rebellion was crushed, and the language and culture were stamped on with full Hanoverian force - even the kilt and the bagpipes were criminalised (back on topic - not because it was important to western civilisation and democracy to have men wear breeches, but just to be total twunts to the Gaelic minority and show them their place...). And this was imposed, most enthusiastically, by the pro-government authorities in Edinburgh - Cardiff never hammered the north of Wales in anything remotely like the same way.

Finally, the least political and historical point, but perhaps the most significant nonetheless; it's said to be a total bugger of a language to speak - the most devilishly inflected in Europe. It sounds lovely, but it is a (*)(*)(*)(*)er to learn. Consider Ireland. The Irish language is so closely related to Scots Gaelic that they were not even distinguished from each other until the nineteenth century (Gaelic was just called "Irish" until then). There was a huge Irish language revivalist movement in the generation leading up to Irish independence, and Irish is both the official language of the Republic and a mandatory second language in Irish schools. Find me an Irishman who can order a coffee and a sandwich in "his own language". It's almost as dead as Scots Gaelic, because sure it's a fierce jaw-cracking language to be speaking now.

 

I'm tempted.

Only a coprologist could decide if that was truly the biggest pot of bottom-product we've seen. Competition is fierce.

But should he be a contender? For sure, I'll second that.

 

It is not only the north of Wales at all..there are two forms of Welsh..north and south and they have developed slightly differently over the years.In west Wales they speak a lot of Welsh as well.

The majority of people in South Wales in the Victorian period did not have to claim their Welsh heritage from their northern neighbours as they already were Welsh and spoke Welsh as well..I think your timeline for the death of the Welsh language in the South is way way out..

 

I'm sorry , comrad , but wrong again .
When Atocha's murder occured , we all were awaiting some thing this kind in France . Why ? because Empire was printing Europ peoples were no more believing in any official 911 tale . So they tried lots of rumors , or false " red alert" ( London , many times ) , but it was clear it did not fill the gap .
False Flag once , False flag for ever , it's like lies ! Once began you have to carry on.
So , when you know that real terrorists can't be tracked , there is no more natural yoke that leads to culprits . False guilty ties become the same for any false culprit you choose .
Then Aznar , Spanish president , who were knowing what's was realy cooking (who were the actual killers and so how impossible it was to try anything against them) (**), was first very angry for Spain was choosen by USA comando without him being told .
So He decided to use the False Flag for his own buisness : He used it against his own ennemys : the Basques. Why not ? No more clues of their own guilt than moslems 'one were possible; so why not .
But the true owners of the FF buisness , using the force of their medias , jettisoned Aznar and grasp back their " fear effect " to resume their 911 fear engine overhaul !

Who can hold thiefs from robbing thiefs ?

But of course I have no clue , I can't proove anything . Only the likelihood of facts Vs time is telling anyone who checks them it could not be otherwise.

But don't tell believers !
Same as god , 911 makers don't talk .
But it's not clearing them from any guilt. As true 10 years after as on first evening , lies can't become truth only with time & censor.

(**) Spanish or French news agencies aren't less clever within their own country than heavies from USrael .

 

While that is an impressive and interesting post, I don't know what you're on about. The Gaelic is alive and kicking in large parts of Scotland. They just don't speak it to non-native speakers.