At this point, I'm predicting an easy Obama win

Seriously look at the republican field; nothing but social 'conservatives.' If they don't pick the most hard core social 'conservative' they can find it's likely they'll lose the TEA party vote thus splitting the right wing vote. No one out there seems reasonable to anyone who's not a hard core christian. I'm not saying Obama is great, he's not. The only thing I can see his presidency being remember for is that he is the first black president of the US. Other than that nothing he has done is that remarkable. Still he speaks well and short of impeachment will almost certainly be running again. That means whoever the right runs will not only need to unite the republican and TEA parties, but they'll also have to compete against a man who can give very good speeches.

Will the speeches be enough though? They certainly captivated the crowds last time. However what was being said in those speeches did not match the reality of Obamas first term. It's unlikely undecided voters will fall for the silver tongue a second time. However they're certainly not going to fall for the current crowd of idiots the right is propping up. When people see Perry, Bachmann, Palin, and crew they see George Bush or worse. It's possible that as things move farther along the right will be able to re-frame their candidates as something other than hard core Christians, which they'll have to do in order to get independent votes. However, again, they risk losing the TEA party vote in doing so. Due to this I think undecideds are likely to go with what they know and vote for Obama. It's not that they want Obama in office, it's that they don't want what the republicans are giving them.

 

Exactly!! Republican's are so worried about beating Obama that they aren't even looking at themselves.

They are in complete shambles. They technically have three separate parties running as Republican's just to do everything they can to try an take down Obama.

For some reason they think people will just shun Obama and go over to the likes of Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann?? Get out of town. I would rather vote a fence post in than a Tea Party member.

 

As disappointing as Obama's administration has been, it's difficult to imagine a republican candidate that won't seem like at least one step down. I haven't heard of any yet.

We need more parties in this race!

Does Obama have any real challengers in the democrats? I want so bad to vote for Kucinich (I know ... snowball's chance). And I'm not real big on Hilary but I'd love to vote for her just to punish Obama for not getting us out of any wars yet.

But vote for a republican? Show me a decent candidate, republicans, and I'll think about it -- but so far it's gone from bizarre to downright nutty.

 

And as angry as some liberals and moderates are at Obama many will vote for him anyways simply because the Republican choice will be so extreme.

 

Easy Obama win.?

Well, I guess there are those that still will listen to the squirrels in their heads.... In making them believe that.

 

9 months after Obama and Democrats suffered The Largest Political Ass Whooping in US History.........



....the naive remain full of HOPE.

Im predicting that Kenyan Turd gets flushed in a landslide.........
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OBAMA IS THE EXTREME..........



.....which is why this country is running back to the Right.
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Lol, like you would or have voted for a Democrat in your life. Your vote is a lock, and all the other racists in town will vote Republican. There's no way out of the 40% that will vote Republican regardless. But unfortunately there is about 10-15% of sane people that will look at the Republican candidate and run screaming in the other direction.

I can't wait to watch you cry like a baby for another 4 years!

 

I think that almost all liberals will vote for Obama again. There is no conservative in the country that wouldn't be considered "extreme" by those who think Obama is a centrist conservative. LOL.

 

I tried a thread on the topic, got mostly crickets.

http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...democrat-alternatives-2012-pres-election.html

 

I voted for Bush in 2004. I see absolutely no difference from Obama and Bush. I would vote for Jon Huntsman if he were up against Obama. I would vote in Hillary over Obama. But there is no way I will ever consider voting for some loon bat Tea Party member like Rick Perry or Paul Ryan.

 

A random Republican is still giving Obama a run for his money:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ident_obama_vs_republican_candidate-1745.html

Hopefully Obama will keep pandering to certain groups while absolutely pissing the majority off. We'll take an easy win

 

I'm predicting America just says NO to your special brand of hate.

 

At this point I'm predicting an easy Obama exit.

Or, how they say...."Kicked too the curb".

 

America will not vote for Jimmy Carter's third term........

.......Barack Obama is the bigget mistake and (D)isaster in US History.......in 2013 the healing will begin.
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Well, your best shot for redemption is Mitt Romney. The other Republican Candidates that are somewhat legitimate have been shooting themselves in the foot the past few weeks. Perry's statements on the environment and Ben Bernanke, while appealing to the hard line conservatives, turned off Independents and Moderates within the Republican Party. Michelle Bachmann's promise of $2 a gallon gas forced the majority of the Republican Party to question whether she's in touch with reality. In this case, only a handful of hard line conservatives supported that statement.

Ron Paul hasn't shot himself in the foot, but if I was a Republican, I would question his principles, as his fiscal conservative principles tend to contradict his social conservative principles. From my observations of Ron Paul, he is the epitome of a state's rights fiscal conservative. However, Paul would also be in favor of making a social issue such as abortion a federal issue. I would like to have consistency in terms of principles from my President.

 

Only if you want to disuade 42% of the electorate.......

A President Mitt Romney will do the same thing a President McCamnesty would have done.......destroy the Republican Party with his liberal tendencies.

The last time a conservative ran for president....he carried 49 states. Hard core conservatism is the path to victory in this country......since 1776.
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Whatever drugs you are currently smoking....man share them because they are obviously potent as hell!

Obama stands absolutely no chance...I think his ratings, policies, and actions have proven that beyond doubt. Look at the conservative playing field...I see some good ones, and some bad ones, but in an environment where a dead deer on the side of the road could probably oust Obama at this point, I don't see Obama even standing a chance....

 

This is exactly the kind of thinking that will cause the republicans to lose. McCain was, sadly, the most reasonable republican candidate short of Ron Paul. He wasn't a straight up social 'conservative'. The vote was lost because Obama had the silver tongue that energized the crowds and everyone was pissed at the republican party after Bush. Hell the party was so pissed it split! Going back to a hard core social 'conservative' like Bush is not the answer. Seriously Bush barely won against Al Gore, a soulless robot, and Kerry, Frankenstein himself. It took two people with the personalities of wood for a social 'conservative' to barely (and arguably) win. What makes you think running another hardcore social 'conservative' is the answer when most of the non-right wing country hates the last one and he barely won to begin with against opponents no one really liked? Seriously look at what dubya was up against! How could he lose? what's worse is he almost did!

 

Where are the good ones? The only good one I know of is Ron Paul and he's not going to get the nomination because he's not a social 'conservative'. Obama may be bad, but I'm pretty sure a lot of non-partisan votes will agree he's better than anyone the republicans are looking to field at the moment. It's totally possible the republicans will find someone new or try to reinvent themselves, but I see them running one of their hard core social 'conservatives' just to get the TEA party vote. That's going to chase away a lot of voters and likely lose them the election. They're pretty much screwed until they can reunite under someone reasonable, which again is possible before the election but doubtful.

 

An earthworm covered in boils could beat odrama.
The only question voters will have to ask themselves when they go to the polls is, "Could this Republican be worse than odrama?" And the answer would have to be, "I don't think that's possible!"

In the 2008 elections, after the disapproval of Bush, WHOEVER the Democrat candidate was, was going to win. Look who won. A junior Senator that has never had a moments experience at an executive level. In fact never had anything but a government job. A rookie that has never earned a living on his own. Has never had to compete in the real world. Yet he was elected president strictly on the overwhelming rejection of Bush.
If Hillary or Edwards were the Dem nominee, they would have won just as well.

In 2012 it will be the opposite. The overwhelming rejection of odrama will allow whoever the Republican is to be elected.

I'm NOT predicting that will be a good thing, just that that's how it will be. [but I can't imagine that it will be as bad as odrama being reelected]

 

You already voted in the post turtle, now you'll settle for the post? The Tea Party wants to put a fence up so that run away government has to stop. And you'd rather have a post that does nothing better than to stand for nothing.

 

The Perry fear mongering says otherwise.

 

Well you know, I shouldn't have said "good ones", my fault, because in reality it's all up to personal beliefs and how you view politics.

Personally I see Perry being a great canidate, and I think Cain and Gringich are both good canidates too. Unfortunately Cain keeps putting his foot in his mouth, and newt seems to be firing campaign analysts right and left. I like Rick Perry so far though.

Either way my point was, the left has nothing to offer. Even if Obama is their candidate, half the DNC wont vote for him again. The independents certainly wont vote for him again, and the conservatives we're never going to vote for him in the first place. Obama is done. Even if you don't like what the right has to offer, that's what you'll get because we can't afford to let Obama back into office, and most of us realize that. The only way the left even stands a chance is if they put up their own candidate(s) against Obama...and even though it's been suggested multiple times that seems to be creating a rift amongst some of the left who still aren't sure.

From the current tide, I see 2012 as a easy GOP win, not because of any other reason but Obama himself making it that way with his actions, policies, and beliefs.

 

Im predicting you and other Progressives will probably jump out of a window of a 100 story building when reality smacks them in the face when a new President is sworn in come January 2013.
Americas rejecting Obozos socialist crap.39% approval rating,56% disapproval,over 70% of America says he sucks at handling the economy.
9% unemployment ,the numbers dont jive with the Lib theory he will win in a landslide.The GOP Nominee,whoever that may be will relentlessly TRASH Obamas record and handling of the economy.Didnt any of you learn why Bush Senior lost to Clinton?
"its the ECONOMY,stupid"
The alarms are sounding off at Obama Re-Election headquarters.They know they CANT run on his dismal record,so they are going to launch a smear campaign against whoever the GOP nominee is,and thats the only chance in hell they have of winning.