Flight 93 recovered underground?

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  1. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Again says who,champ?......an anonymous poster on a message board, or trained investigators familiar with the airframes of countless planes?
     
  2. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you would look at the event with honesty you would realize that there's more to investigation then looking at pictures.
     
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    It's the remains the energy weapon that brought down United 93.

    /fact
     
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    suede Banned

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    Hypocrisy, love it!

     
  5. suede

    suede Banned

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    Are you saying it's a brand new backhoe bucket?!? :-D

    You can totally see scuff marks inside. View the hi-res image here.
     
  6. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think his point was that the scuff marks do not indicate that the debris was placed in the hole by the bucket. His point was that that was speculation on your part.
     
  7. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Aight slick, detail the hypocrisy in my post...
     
  8. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    No kid, I see no fresh new shiny scratches inside the bucket that surely would have been left there wen the debris slid out of the bucket
     
  9. Hunter Rose

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    The only statement I've seen about the excavator piece of junk photo that says:

    And, as to that statement, that was not even a part of the evidence, I don't think; and, even if it is, it makes no claim that what is seen is a jet engine.

    I'm very sorry this offends posters who, I know, want to assume the photo is a jet engine and a part of a Boeing 757 and a part of United Flight 93 and who do not like anyone questioning the fact that there's no proof of that, other than what posters here want to believe.

    Your beliefs are not proof. Your beliefs are your beliefs. It is too bad you accept so many assumptions about 9/11 without adequate proof.

    If it was introduced as evidence, can you kindly say what was it introduced as purporting to showf? I have shown that it was not described as being a photo of a jet engine.

    Finally, I'm not sure how much more time we have to spend on this. Let me ask a question. Would people here prefer not have to show that the photo was described as being a part of a jet engine? Do people here absolutely want it to be assumed the photo is that of a jet engine and that it is just not reight for anybody to say it has not ever been said to be a jet engine anywhere that anyone has yet posted up?

    What do you folks want in re the requirement of proof? Ignore it because they agree that ignorance is bliss?
     
  10. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    lets digest something here......your 'proof' involves secret energy weapons fired from lord only knows that vaporized around 70% of the towers structure,yet didn't toast most of lower manhattan in the process, yet you admonish US for OUR 'lack' of proof.


    I now invite you to go to the devil,posthaste
     
  11. RtWngaFraud

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    It's pure speculation that a pice of metal in dirt next to a backhoe proves anything besides some metal, dirt, and a backhoe have anything at all to do with 93.
     
  12. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    No,it's not, especially when trained people are doing it...
     
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    It's not embedded. It's laid in there, or did they use the backhoe bucket to scrap all the dirt off the top and sides?

    It's also obviously laid in there because it was reported the crews had to dig 15 feet down to start finding stuff. The black boxes were reportedly at 15 feet and 25 feet.

    Note the "engine" is only about 5 feet under. Dead giveaway -- besides it not being embedded, no dirt on it, and the only piece of debris supposedly being dug up.
     
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    How could you with a grainy photo! :-D

    And you have pretty good eyes being able to see the bottom of the bucket.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    What part of 'Inside the bucket' did you fail to understand?....and the scratches should be evident in your 'high res' photo you posted.
     
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    It has occurred to me today that NO PLANErs should be pretty easy to refute. A tragedy has yesterday taken place in outback South Australia with a helicopter and 3 television employees crashing.
    Thinking that perhaps there might have been a conspiracy I rushed to look at photos of the site. It is normal, of course, not to show bodies in a crash in the media - which is not to say the bodies do not exist, nor photos do not document the site.

    Take for example this photo:

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    Note 3 bright blue squares of plastic sheeting, 3 for the 3 victims.

    If NO PLANErism is correct, not only can there have been no bodies at Shanksville, but all evidence pertaining to such bodies must be falsified or misinterpreted.

    So what evidence is there?
     
  17. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Apples and oranges....the Australia crash was obviously a small singl or twin engine plane, travelling at a far slower speed that the 767 in shanksville.




    As I said,it's all about common sense...I invite you to get some.
     
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    Well, at least there is an actual photo of an actual crash there. That's different.
     
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    You heard about a helicopter crash and the first thing you thought was maybe there was a conspiracy?

    Really?

    Really?

    So you...rushed to look at photos?

    Come on.

    You've gotta be kidding.

    Seriously?

    The aircraft in question was tracked to the crash site

    Air traffic controllers heard and recorded the hijackers over an open mic on the aircraft.

    The cockpit voice recorded recorded the hijacking.

    35 airphone calls were made from the aircraft and family members had their last conversations with their loved ones.

    Witnesses saw the plane crash.

    Local emergency response teams quickly discovered that a plane had crashed.

    Investigators removed aircraft debris that matched flight 93.

    1500 pieces of human remains totally about 600 pounds were removed from the Shanksville crash site. All of the passengers remains have been identified, including the remains of the 4 hijackers.
     
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    Of course you can cite every claim you just made with absolute certainty.
    Could you please start with the 35 "airphone" calls? Just a few convincing and provable details please. Thanks.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why don't you ask the family members that had loved ones die that day? What's the matter? Are you afraid to feel like a scumbag in order to further your ridiculous claims?
     
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    what family members?

    I want to see the death certs, where are they, or are you just talking agin
     
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    Like your guy's claim that most of a 757 was in the ground?

    That's the MOST ridiculous claim about 9/11 that I've heard.
     
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    What family members? The actors hired to make emotional appeals? Provide us with real witnesses.

    Exactly.

    NO PLANE at Shanksville.
     
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    Nobody's questioning people died Fangtooth. We just question HOW it happened, and HOW it doesn't make sense as presented. Propagate onward.
     
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