My View: Race Relations in America

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Trinnity, Sep 3, 2011.

  1. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    Please forgive me, but I love using you as a foil.

    The American left has great reason to fear Clarence Thomas. History will celebrate him as one of the most effective leaders of the conservative movement. His world view is fully formed, comprehensive, uncompromising, and in a position to makes itself felt by all Americans. Clarence Thomas is the man who is going to kill Obamacare by ruling the individual mandate is unconstitutional.

    His receipt of AA benefits is one of the few things which restrains our antipathy toward special benefits for African Americans. AA violates Equal Protection. Don't push your luck.
     
  2. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    When he's campaigning, he often says.....

    "they are going to say 'he doesn't look like me."

    "So nobody really thinks that Bush or McCain have a real answer for the challenges we face, so what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me. You know, he's not patriotic enough. He's got a funny name. You know, he doesn't look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills, you know. He's risky. That's essentially the argument they're making."
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/01/barackobama.uselections2008

    This is his attempt to smear anyone who doesn't agree with his policies as being racist. He did it to McCain and Hillary Clinton.

    Bill Clinton got very angry during the Primary because of it.

    "The former president had been asked whether his remarks comparing Obama’s strong showing in South Carolina to that of Jesse Jackson in 1988 had been a mistake given their impact on his wife Hillary Clinton’s campaign. “No, I think that they played the race card on me,” said Clinton, “and we now know from memos from the campaign and everything that they planned to do it all along.”

    “We were talking about South Carolina political history and this was used out of context and twisted for political purposes by the Obama campaign to try to breed resentment elsewhere. And you know, do I regret saying it? No. Do I regret that it was used that way? I certainly do. But you really got to go some to try to portray me as a racist.”

    He added that the way Obama’s campaign had reacted was “disrespectful to Jesse Jackson” and that the former presidential candidate had told him he was not offended, and that “we all know what’s going on."
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/22/bill-clinton-obama-camp-played-the-race-card-on-me/
     
  3. Daybreaker

    Daybreaker Well-Known Member

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    Just remember you're the one that said that.
     
  4. Agent Zero

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    The funny thing about that, JP5, is that really happened.
     
  5. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    What's more....it is the policies of the Democrats who are at the root of the reason why unemployment is so high among young African American males. And that's a shame. They need to realize that the Democrats have not done them any favors through the decades.
     
  6. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Yes. And everyone should watch "Social Network" if they don't believe Harvard isn't a snobby elitist college where most everyone thinks they are above everyone else.
     
  7. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    The proclivity of the left to use the federal govt. as their instrument for the imposition of social justice means that the federal govt. is going to have to become essentially powerless. There are several ways this can happen. Don't forget that I'm the one who said that the federal govt. is going to be neutered.
     
  8. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Yes, I agree about Thomas. AND YET, he was basically tarred-and-feathered by the Democrats and ALL because he's a conservative. It was a classic example of what happens to any black person who dares think for themselves, hold any conservative views, and who steps off the Democrat plantation. It's never been about color; it's always been about politics.

    How racist is it to believe that ALL blacks should be Democrats and to condemn those who dare not to be? VERY.
     
  9. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    African America has cast its fate with the American left. That means that both Republicans and Democrats can ignore African Americans with impunity.
     
  10. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    The Republican party? The McCain campaign? You need to provide the proof of exactly who you are claiming played the race card against Obama.

    A blog or an individual doesn't count. We're talking about political parties here...candidates and the campaigns. The Obama campaign DID just that. That's been proven here. Now.....prove that the Republican party and/or the McCain campaign did so.....as you seem to be claiming.
     
  11. Albert Di Salvo

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    Great post. The fact that the ideas of Clarence Thomas will defeat major portions of leftist orthodoxy is incredibly sweet revenge.
     
  12. MissJonelyn

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    Race baiting is pretty much never going to go away. The reason why it is never going to go away is because people have pretty much either made a business out of it or have benefited from it in some way. Until that changes, people will always be obsessed with race in America.
     
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    I'm claiming that?
     
  14. Mad Conservative

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    *golf clap*
    Outstanding.
     
  15. Mad Conservative

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    Read Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Maxine Waters... et al, ad infinitum and ad nauseum.
    Chris Matthews should really be added to this list, too. There are plenty of whites who fit this definition.
     
  16. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    I don't see Republicans ignoring them. We want them to have every opportunity that every other American has. Republicans simply do not believe that doing everything for a group has gotten them where they should be. In fact, it's kept them down. I'll give you two examples of what I don't care for regarding race relations:

    1) The term "African American" is wrong, IMO. And while I use it some....because everyone else does, I don't care for it. It implies they are less than real Americans. I saw a black Navy Pilot speak once back in the 80's....and he had a real awe-inspiring speech and told people, "Don't call me African Ameircan; I've never even been to Africa. I am an American..period." He had me nearly in tears....his speech was absolutely great and inspiring.

    2) There should not be a CBC. Sometimes, I'm amazed at the thought that we really have a subset inside the U.S. Congress that is based solely on race. (I thought we had moved beyond that) The idea of it is appalling to me and should be to every black American. They are Americans; they are equal to every other Congressman or woman who were elected to serve our country. I feel the same about the Hispanic caucus. I think dividing everybody up in their own little racial cliques is all wrong for our country and does NOT set a good example. You can't have groups in the private sector whose memberships are based soely on race. So why would it be desirable in Congress????
     
  17. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Didn't you make your comment in response to the quote of Obama's that I posted, which was.......

    "so what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me. You know, he's not patriotic enough. He's got a funny name." JP5

    Then you went on to say, funny thing is, they did. I'm just asking where? Who did that? Not saying some individuals or blogs may have. But I never saw it from the Republican party or the McCain campaign. If you did, then please provide the proof. That's all I'm saying.....
     
  18. MissJonelyn

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    Of course, they are perfect examples.

    By the way, never mention Al sharpton to me ever again. It's gonna take a year to get this gaff out of my head.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqQe4KOrvsM"]Al Sharpton teleprompter flub MSNBC LIVE TV HILARIOUS 'but resist we much' BLOOPER EPIC FAIL mishap - YouTube[/ame]
     
  19. JIMV

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    I both disagree and agree...I agree that the race card has been repeatedly played in this administration, but I disagree on its user and effect. The race card has long been the lefts trump card in almost every issue. When they are losing an argument and have used up all their other appeals to emotion or fear, they throw the card. Since Obama has reigned, the card is thrown willy-nilly in all directions and for the most trivial of reasons. It has been used so often and so trivially, that it simply does not work as it once did.

    The left is used to the right fleeing the field of battle at the waving of the race flag. Now folk pretty much ignore the claim and the far left cannot handle the result. They now have to actually argue their positions without the use of the card, thrown but ignored. They simply do not know how and are both perplexed and angered by the new playing field.

    The Obama administration has simply so overused the card it has no effect.

    Now to where I disagree with the thread. I do not believe Obama is guilty of using the race card, I believe he simply turns a blind eye to its use by his minions. As a result, some agencies are little short f a joke today....Justice comes to mind.
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is true...He is only a want-to-be elitist....I am reminded of this quote.

    "A modest little person, with much to be modest about."
    Winston Churchill
     
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    There is a big difference between attending a school based on a quota and attending due to merit.
     
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    Ah yes. The old racists' standby:

    1) If a black man succumbs to poverty and crime, it is because he is inherently stupid and lay.
    2) If a black man succeeds it's because he was given an unfair advantage over some poor discriminated against white male.

    Meanwhile, guess who also graduated from Harvard after his daddy got him in:

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  23. MissJonelyn

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    As much as I like reading anecdotal nonsense, you wouldn't happen to have an evidence of that would you?
     
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    I'm ready for the race card. Bring it on. I have nothing to fear at all. Trinnity, this is going to escalate between now and the election and Obama himself will have to weight in on it. At this point he's made no attempt to choose a side on the uncivil attacks on Tea Party members with the "go to hell" and "end of a rope" statements. His silence screams.

    With the recent unveiling of the MLK statue you'd think it would set a tone and Obama would stand on his character. He isn't. So, I'll take his silence on the matter as an endorsement that he believes I want him at the end of a rope.
     
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    Does the name David Duke ring a bell??
     

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