"We are Mexicans and Americans stole our land."

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  1. Vergilius

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    Questions.

    Why would they let a substitute teacher make such claims? A sub is only on the job for a day or two. It is doubtful whether he was around the students long enough to determine whether they are thugs or whether he is just a racist. The students are probably all second generation.

    Why would he be trying to make an eighth grade class say the pledge of allegiance?

    Either way, I never believed in the pledge of allegiance. It is brainwashing.
     
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    That is true, and the amount of Latino gang members on both sides could make short work of border agents. I would venture that gang members in SoCal and Northern Mexico number in the tens of thousands.
     
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    mexicans have already successfully repatriated themselves in parts of the US and they will continue to infiltrate the entire country.

    there is really nothing wrong with this, they are of native indian decent and this land was rightfully theres as they were nomadic people whose tribes often traveled distances for buffalos and other food
     
  4. Albert Di Salvo

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    You don't know history. The Mexica (Aztecs) and other Nahuatl speakers came from deep interior Mexico. They never lived in what is now the United States.

    The indigenous peoples of Arizona, N. Mexico, California and Texas were Hopis, Navahos, Apaches, Ohlone, et al. They were mostly wiped out by disease and genocide. They were not Nahuatl language speakers.

    You must have gone to public school.
     
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    they are the cousins of the native american indians and are returning this land back to the native indian or "brown people" through colonization

    the mexica aztecs are the same race as the navahos, apaches etc...who were killed by the white mans disease and genocide so they would have more of a claim to the United States than its newer inhabitants
     
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    Don't tempt them, our incompetent federal government would probably willingly sign a treaty giving the entire southwest to them if they could some how manage to increase their latino voting numbers.
     
  7. Albert Di Salvo

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    You have no proof of a relationship between the Mexican Nahuatl language group speakers and the American Indians. Your position is absurd.

    North America has been subject to at least four different waves of immigration by different, distinct and discrete ethnic groups of proto-mongoloids. Do you know who Kennewick Man was? Do you know the difference between the Ainu of Japan and the mongoloid majority of Japan.

    You shouldn't be talking to me because you aren't educated well enough. Read up. Start here:
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/meet-kennewick-man.html
     
  8. Serfin' USA

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    Legalize pot. That would end the biggest market for the cartels.

    Reform the visa system. That would encourage more companies to hire legal immigrants.
     
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    It basically is already.............
     
  10. Serfin' USA

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    It's apparently still illegal enough to be profitable for criminals.

    If it was legalized, the price would go down, and then, cartels would lose interest in it due to a decrease in profits.
     
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    they may be different types of mongoloids but their all mongoloids, mexica aztecs and american indians.

    mexico is also part of the north american continent so the aztecs were american indians

    and the USA belonged to mongoloids before it belonged to caucazoids.
     
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    How absurd! Mongoloids never came to the western hemisphere. Proto-mongoloids did. Get your act together. Kennewich man was here before any of the groups who became Nahuatl speakers living deep in Mexico.

    The illegal immigrants from Mexico are mostly mestizos, not indians. They have no more claim to the US than do the Tibetans.

    The mestizos of mexico who come as illegal aliens haven't confined themselves to the territories lost by Mexico under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. They are now all over the entire US.

    Does all of the US belong to the Mexicans in your opinion?
     
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    it belongs to everyone but the mexican proto-mongoloids and mestizos are closer in genetic makeup to the american indians than the caucazoids so they should have more claim to this land

    some type of reperations should be given to these people and they certainly shouldn't be treated like "illegal aliens" and given less rights than the average american
     
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    A lot of Indian tribes killed each other over land just like the colonists eventually did.

    Right to land is ultimately a matter of force.

    We defeated the natives and Mexico long ago, and so the land became rightfully ours.

    Israel is a more modern situation that is equivalent. While I can still sympathize with Palestinians in some respects, the land that Israelis control isn't their land because they don't control it.
     
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    A lot of Indian tribes killed each other over land just like the colonists eventually did.

    Right to land is ultimately a matter of force.

    We defeated the natives and Mexico long ago, and so the land became rightfully ours.

    Israel is a more modern situation that is equivalent. While I can still sympathize with Palestinians in some respects, the land that Israelis control isn't Palestinian land because they don't control it.
     
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    Being "forced to sign "unequal treaties at gunpoint" as you put it, is the consequence of war.

    The moral to that story is, as the Taliban for example recently learned, don't go to war if you are unprepared to suffer the consequences of it, or start one, with an enemy you can't defeat.

    Furthermore the land in question, wasn't owned by Mexico to start with. It was owned by the Republic of Texas, which Mexico illegally invaded.

    Oh, we aren't supposed to mention that.

    As for the OP, as I've said, there's a few Marine, Army, and Naval units there in Texas who disagree.

    Mexico lost a war it started, deal with it.
     
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    Being "forced to sign "unequal treaties at gunpoint" as you put it, is the consequence of war.

    The moral to that story is, as the Taliban for example recently learned, don't go to war if you are unprepared to suffer the consequences of it, or start one, with an enemy you can't defeat.

    Furthermore the land in question, wasn't owned by Mexico to start with. It was owned by the Republic of Texas, which Mexico illegally invaded.

    Oh, we aren't supposed to mention that.

    As for the OP, as I've said, there's a few Marine, Army, and Naval units there in Texas who disagree.

    Mexico lost a war it started, deal with it.

    Frankly given Mexico has sent military units across the border, sanctioned Mexican military units firing upon U.S. citizens and Police/Border Patrol, encouraged it's poorer citizens to illegally enter the United States.

    Mexico should be signing another treaty taking even more land at gun point.
     
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    According to your logic Sephardic Jews who settle illegally on the West Bank of the Jordan River have a better claim to that land than do Arab Palestinians.
     
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    yes also the mexicans are part of the north american continent so they are actually american indians
     
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    Are Han Chinese entitled to move millions of Han into Tibet because they are both East Asian?
     
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    True they are American Hispanic Indians. That however does not give them any right to enter this nation illegally, in violation of the laws as established by the Citizens of this Nation.
     
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    I don't think the Mexican kids give a rats about the subtleties of the Spanish American war, or who bought or "stole" what and under what conditions. People believe what makes them feel good, and if being a victim does the trick, then no amount of reason will make a difference. Not all Mexicans feel this way but for those who do, all it does is harm them more than it harms anyone else. They are the victims of their own stupidity and hatred..


    Bro
     
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    Why would Nancy Pelosi care, her insider trading has made her a millionaire.... She could and is capable of flying off too anywhere, why would she care... She's willing to have as many votes as she can until she has too leave this lovely place due to kayos, she don't care about the civil war left behind, she could care less!

    These Insider Trader Congressmen and women have the ability too make big bucks at the anger and expense of us little guys who will end up taking the heat....


    Jollee in CA



     
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    You've said this before and I've proven you wrong.

    The natives in Mexico are not from the same cultural/genetic stock as the Native North Americans. The Apache, Arapaho, Comanche and Sioux would raid across the Rio Grande all the time and murder the Mestizos for cattle and horses.

    At the time of the treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo there were 38,000 Mexicans living in what became US territory. There were nearly 128,000 native Americans mostly consisting of Cherokee, Choctaw, Comanche, Apache, and Sioux.

    The Apache held the largest hunter-gatherer empire on the Continent that ranged from Texas through Oklahoma where the claim of the Sioux in the plains were made north of there. To the west were the Comanche's and north of them the Arapaho and the Mountain tribes of the Rockies.

    You need a history lesson of the Native Peoples in the area. The borderline between these tribes always had been the Rio Grande and the only ones who crossed it regularly were Comanche who had a few holds on the Mexican side of the river.

    Please learn history before spouting your nonsense. Mestizos didn't own anything north of the Rio Grande. The Red Indians tended to hate the brown ones. Fact of life on the Plains.
     
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    You are absolutely right.
     
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