"We are Mexicans and Americans stole our land."

The Spanish/Mexican Governments for decades and decades tried to encourage the Mestizo Indians to migrate North of the Rio Grande and they wouldn't do it.

The few that did stayed clustered in several dense colonies in New Mexico, the rest stayed home because they knew if they crossed the river the Comanches and Apache would murder the men, steal their women and livestock and leave them scalped and hanging from poles along the River border as a warning to any future colonists. The Northern Indians did not want the Southerners crossing that river into their ancestral lands. Those two peoples had blood enmity stretching back into the mists of time.

It's awful funny how archeology shows the sharp break in culture at the river. The Aztecs wouldn't even dare cross that river and they were the mightiest and most advanced tribe in all the Americas. They were scared (*)(*)(*)(*)less of the warlike reds who didn't go around with obsidian weapons and taking prisoners.

The Aztecs wanted prisoners for sacrifice, the North Americans just wanted you dead.

There is a reason it took us 400 years to conquer this continent, because we had the most bad ass warlike natives on the planet living here and they didn't take kindly to strangers. They were more likely to string you up then trade with you and I don't blame them. Life was tough in that region.

 

How many times are you going to bring up this idiotic point, and continued to be slapped down with facts?

Just because mexicans have Indian heritage doesn't give them rightful claim to land that were occupied other Indian tribes who weren't Mexican.

According your logic, because I have Irish heritage, living in America, I have rightful claim to land in Ireland.
You could scream about whites stealing land from native americans all day, and be right, but you make no sense at all, with your asinine claim.

 

They are moving there just like millions of early European settlers moving to the so-called New World. One fine day, your beloved uncle may discard his Taoist robe and move there to spend his final days as a monk with the Dalai clan.

 

Mexicans are not American Indians, they are Hispanics and or Mexicans, how ignorant is that! Why try and wipe two heritage properties together, when you do that you destroy history! You have no right too impinge on mine!

Jollee

 

they are of aztec indian decent and mexico is part of the north american continent so they are american indians technically

not united states indians but american indians

 

I'm a progressive and I didnt support Obama. Incidentally, as a progressive, I'm a libertarian. You see only a conservative is not a progressive - being progressive is not necessarily left wing, its only because of American political history that the word carries that connotation. Its one I reject. I like progress and development. "Change" not so much.

 

False logic. Flawed thought.

 

Read a bit pof history Jollee. I am sure they are referring to the Mexican–American War of the 19th century:

"The Mexican–American War, also known as the First American Intervention, the Mexican War, or the U.S.–Mexican War,[1][2] was an armed conflict between the United States and Mexico from 1846 to 1848 in the wake of the 1845 U.S. annexation of Texas, which Mexico considered part of its territory despite the 1836 Texas Revolution.

American forces invaded New Mexico, the California Republic, and parts of what is currently northern Mexico; meanwhile, the American Navy conducted a blockade, and took control of several garrisons on the Pacific coast of Alta California, but also further south in Baja California. Another American army captured Mexico City, and forced Mexico to agree to the cession of its northern territories to the U.S."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican–American_War

American Imperialism will leave some scars.

 

Hey genius, aztecs didn't claim the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing southwest of the United States, first Spain did, then later on the Republic of Mexico, and yet neither Spain or Mexico had rightful claim of this land, nor did the United States.

But along with these idiotic mexicans, you can't grasp the fact that they never had any legit claim to the Southwest whatsoever.

The only people who had their land stolen are the Indian tribes of the Americas, not (*)(*)(*)(*)ing mexicans.

 

So, it wasn't imperialistic of Mexico to claim land that never rightfully belong to them as well?

As expected you only offer a one side view of history.

Good job pal.

 

When one is inundated with Mexican illegals one wants to see them all go away. If that isn't possible one wants to see them dead. Is this what you leftists had in mind? Did you think we would simply roll over?

 

No because Mexico is mostly made up of the native american indians or Aztec people so they would have more of a rightful claim to the land

the americans commited a holacaust against their cousins the cherokees, apaches, redskins and other native tribes of the north american continent and then colonized the land and pilaged it of some of its resources like the buffalos

they are merely returning the favor presently with the illegal immigration

 

So you never learned that two wrongs don't make a right? This is our land now, and it is a great affront to see citizens defending illegal behavior.

 

mexicans peacefully recolonizing this land as undocumented workers is not a wrong, the drug wars on the borders are the only thing that is wrong

 

By your own words we are legitimately entitled to resist the holocaust as a measure of self-defense. Your words give us the right to fight back.

 

You either don't have an instinct for self-preservation or you are Mexican.

 

didn't intend to include the violence aspect, that was a misunderstanding

but they have every right to recolonize this land peacefully as migrant workers

 

Violating the sovereignty of the legal citizens, their State, and our Nation is wrong, and you as a citizen should want to defend the nation you belong to. Cowtowing to political correctness and appeasing the menace is wrong.

 

No they don't. Where do you draw up this stupid conclusion?

 

What about the people of China? They are mongoloids. The Hopi, Navaho, Chippewa, Kickapoo, Ohlone, et al. were proto-mongoloids.

Should the people of China have the right to come to America illegally? The blood of the Chinese is purer than the blood of the Mestizos of Mexico who are part white.

 

everyone is welcome, there shouldn't be any borders

 

Do you know what "Transnationalism" is? Transnationalists believe they are citizens of the world and not limited by national borders. Are you a Transnationalist?

 

There has to be some kind of border system, it's the basic system of civil and order society. Unless you're shoveling some kind of notion of a one world government.

 

liberalminority is unfamiliar with history. He isn't familiar with why the nation-state came into existence in the first place.