The birther thread to end all birther threads

so, you trust their judgement, but reject the judgement of the electoral college, the ENTIRE congress and the ENTIRE US judiciary who disagrees with them?

 

All Birther blather. None it both true and meaningful. Reality does not care one whit about what you believe.

Obama is President of the United States.

 

Well, you are lying. There was no such thing as a citizen of Kenya when Obama was born, but that's not the half of it.

You have repeatedly insisted that foreign countries cannot force their citizenship on somebody involuntarily. But yet, here again you contradict yourself and insist they did exactly that. As a result we cannot genuinely tell if you are lying or simply deeply personally confused.

If as you have repeatedly insisted foreign countries cannot force their citizenship on anybody involuntarily, then Obama cannot have ever been a dual citizen.

So... make up your mind first, and then we'll be able to determine if you are a liar or just ignorant.

But of course... this whole discussion is academic since it's perfectly okay for a dual citizen to be President.

 

Yet- no one but Birthers believe this. Has any British authority claimed that Obama is a UK citizen? Of course not. The only ones making the claim are the same people who have a half dozen other reasons why they believe Barack Obama is not eligible.

And again with this 'imagining' what the writers of our Constitution wanted in a commander in chief- I can say with far greater certainty that they never imagined that the son of a negro from Africa would be eligible to be President.

One of the sure signs of a Birther, is how they carefully edit quotes to exclude content- in this case leaving out:

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”


By the way excellent job of copying and pasting from other Birthers on the web. .

"But did becoming a Kenyan Citizen terminate British Citizenship? We look into the Kenyan Constitution and find...."

Why would the Kenyan Constitution determine British Citizenship? Silly Birthers.

Are these like your Attorney buddies who also apparently are the only attorneys in the U.S. who agree with Kerchner? The attorney's who the Court of Appeals in Indiana says don't know the law?

Seriously- why do Birthers always seem to rely upon 'anonymous' experts, rather than real sources?

Tell you what- show me a real source- rather than an anonymous 'fishing buddy'.

 

not true...

 

But only some agenda (plural for agendum) require the person holding it to contradict themselves repeatedly in post after post after post as you have been doing here.

Show some backbone, Dutch. Figure out what you believe and then come back and argue with us. It grow tedious watching you argue with yourself.

 

sanctimony

 

it does grow tedious perfect masterful one.. or just grows is fine too. that's ok, you're only human.. albiet critical and condescending. i know english and italian are your only languages.

here's sfjeff arguing with himself...

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Patrick,

Do you believe Hugo Chavez should be able to decide who is eligible to be U.S. President?

Do you believe that Kim Jil Young (or however you spell the name of North Korea's dictator) should be able to disqualify say Michelle Bachmann from being eligible?

Patrick,

No reply? Would you have us believe that you are in favor of Hugo Chavez having a veto on who can be U.S. President? Or that Gorbachav could have veto over Reagan from being President?


here's sf and wongki in consort:

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Originally Posted by Dutch
So, was Barack Obama Kenyan citizen until 1982, yes or no?

san francisco jeff: I believe he was a Kenyan citizen until he turned 23.


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Originally Posted by Dutch
So, was Barack Obama Kenyan citizen until 1982, yes or no?

wong van steve: If, as you insist, a nation cannot give its citizenship involuntarily, no. Obama was never a Kenyan citizen.



the american people deserve better than obot pretzel logic.
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Wong... was or was not the Anointed One born a Kenyan citizen? Was or was he not a dual citizen until at least the age 21? Had or had not the shyster dual allegiance till at least age 21?

Yes or No? Come on, grow the set of brass ones, and take a position, instead of taking offense at the ways I call Obama?

 

In your world maybe. Of course here in the real world, not a single member of congress r objected to obama's certification, nor has a single member of the judiciary ever agreed with you

 

not what you said rahlbot...

 

Exactly what I said washout...

 

you said the entire judiciary. we haven't tried the entire system yet, and you can't speak for all of congress yet. new evidence coming out. rahlwong. this is just starting. there is nothing you can do to kill this popular growing story. you are hapless and weak. rahlwong.

 

Yes, I said the entire judiciary. They are bound by precident. And yes, I can speak for the entire congress, because the entire congress unanimously certified his election. And no new evidence is coming.....washedup

 

you're so innocent.. tell that to sheriff joe and the posse... rw... obot
can you speak for the president ? fess up and resign then... 0bot

 

You're so delusional... shereiff joe has exactly zero jurisdiction regarding the POTUS or his eligibility. Stop trolling......washedup

 

we'll see wong junior:

Bill Gardner is a New Hampshire treasure who has worked tirelessly for Granite Staters and the preservative of our special political culture. The fact that he has drawn this ire establishes his good judgment. Were Secretary Gardner to even entertain your request he would be putting New Hampshire’s “First in the Nation” Primary in grave danger. Please, Dr. Taitz, go away and leave New Hampshire alone.

Sincerely,

D.J. Bettencourt
Majority Leader
New Hampshire House of Representatives


i love it. live free or die.

 

If you weren't a blatant troll......id almost feel sorry for you.

 

i do feel so for you, but not for trolling, that's just business as usual here in obotland... "other"

you will never defeat freedom or attempted justice rw... surrender now dorothy !

 

Please, Dr. Taitz, go away and leave New Hampshire alone.

 

see, vermont would never do that...

do you know why all the drama ?? cause it's a hot issue. she's pushing all the right buttons and i couldn't be more proud to be a birther.

 

I think Vermont would rider her out of state on the back of a dairy cow, if she brings her annoying dog and pony show there.

 

what kind of talk is that ? vermont's too liberal now. and what kind of liberal state would run someone out on a "rail" we'll say. for questioning authority ?? not vermont, bernie wouldn't stand for it, he's a socialist. plus peta would have some questions about the cow. vermont isn't like me myself and irene you know.

i appreciate your political enthusiasm, reminds me of tar and feathering from the first days of america.