Rahm wants more gun control for Illinois...

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  1. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It looks like the Chicago General of the Obama Machine is on the move. Luckily, it will more than likely not pass.

    Emanuel proposes statewide gun registry:

    Mayor Rahm Emanuel wants a statewide gun registry in Illinois, an idea some lawmakers quickly dismissed Thursday as ineffective and an insult to gun owners.

    The proposal would require anyone who buys a handgun to pay a $65 registration fee. To register a gun, a purchaser would need to provide his name, address and phone number, along with the weapon's manufacturer and serial number and the place and date of purchase. The registry would be in addition to the firearm ownership standards all gun owners must already meet.

    Emanuel, picking up the gun control agenda started by predecessor Richard Daley, said a registry could help reduce the flow of illegal guns into Chicago from around the state by making it easier for police to figure out where they came from.

    "I'm introducing this because our law enforcement community, our parents, our community groups, our block and neighborhood watch groups need a proper gun legislation to complement all the other activities we're doing," Emanuel said.

    Downstate Rep. Brandon Phelps called Emanuel's initiative a "slap in the face of every law-abiding gun owner."

    "It's never going to work," said Phelps, D-Harrisburg. "They're trying to go after criminals. They're never going to register their guns. They won't pay the fee."

    In Springfield, gun control issues are often as much about geography as partisanship. Downstaters tend to oppose gun control measures, while lawmakers from Chicago and some suburbs tend to support them.

    Emanuel is not unaware of the tough road he'll encounter at the Capitol.

    "I didn't go into this because I thought it was a slam-dunk. You don't need me for that," Emanuel said at a Thursday news conference with police Superintendent Garry McCarthy and others at a youth center in the Roseland neighborhood to announce the proposal. "You don't need my political capital for the easy things. You use your political capital for the tough things that are the right things to do."

    The mayor didn't get immediate public support from Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn. While the governor campaigned on a statewide ban on assault weapons, he said Thursday that he would reserve his opinion on Emanuel's gun registry plan. Quinn wants lawmakers to first weigh in and "give their wisdom."

    Richard Pearson, executive director of the Illinois State Rifle Association, said the plan "would probably have no chance of passing."

    The National Rifle Association quickly pounced on both the philosophy and the fee.

    "The last time we checked, Rahm Emanuel was mayor of Chicago — not emperor of Illinois," said Stephanie Samford, NRA spokeswoman. "This legislation would make self-defense a luxury item."

    Republican Rep. Rosemary Mulligan of Des Plaines said she'll support the mayor's bill when it's introduced in the coming weeks. Mulligan, whose father died from gun violence in Chicago just before Thanksgiving 1967, said she has family who work and live in the city now.

    "If you're the mayor, you have to worry about people being shot," Mulligan said. "There just seems to be a murder a day at least."

    Sen. Kwame Raoul said he supported the mayor's proposal but also plans to seek a more comprehensive "middle ground discussion."

    "I think what the mayor is probably getting at is the fact that what is more helpful toward preventing gun violence is preventing gun trafficking," said Raoul, D-Chicago. "To the extent to which we can track the transfer of guns and keep track of guns, it does nothing to harm the rights of law-abiding gun owners."

    But Raoul said he does not know that the mayor's proposal could pass if considered "in isolation."

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  2. Silverhair

    Silverhair New Member

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    Meanwhile, El Paso, TX, a major U.S. city on the Mexican border, has more guns than people, is under Texas lax gun laws, and had only three (3) murders in all of 2010.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    yet across the boder in juarez mexico,which HAS gun control, there were over 1000 murders in 2011
     
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    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you quoting 2010 for a particular reason, since 7 people including the gunman died in one incident from a shooting in Texas around Christmas 2011.
     
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    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Why is Rahm trying to pretend he is the governor? He is mayor of Chicago. Let him stick with Chicago and leave the rest of Illinois alone.
     
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    hiimjered Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no reason for Rahm to try to control the rest of the state. Let him keep his policies in the little liberal paradise that he and his cronies have created. Leave the rest of the state alone.
     
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    I agree. We downstate Dems want concealed carry, not more gun control. We are at odds with Chicago and many here wouldn't shed a tear if Chicago divorced us and became it's own State.
     
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    hiimjered Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This seems to be a very common mindset in any state with a very large city. I've heard the same thing from New Yorkers and Californians.
     
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    Ayuh,... Yer absolutely Right,...
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Chicago and D.C. had gun bans and the two highest murder rates while the bans were in effect.

    Gun control advocates just don't get it.
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are out of control down there. Gee, they aren't supposed to have any guns down there. They have laws darnit!
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The reference city was El Paso, not the entire State of Texas.
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree. Mayor Daley was the same way, and even tried to muster power over NW Indiana.
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Illinois is the only holdout in the Union. I hope that the National Right To Carry bill passes the Senate, and Obama signs it. I think Illinois would still have to enact the right to carry though. What are they afraid of? It's unConstitutional to prevent one from carrying, IMO.
     
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    Jews author gun control laws,always have,Rahm is a Jew,makes perfect sense to me. Here are your authors of major gun laws,.....they have something in common...they are Jews...am I anti-Semitic?...No,just not going to delude myself.

    http://iamthewitness.com/doc/The.Jewish.Gun.Grabbers.htm
     
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