The New Anti-Science Assault on US Schools

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  1. Never Left

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    You like the whirlpool don't you? I have the intellectual capacity to ask questions about declarative science that involves speculation and passed off as proof. I do not have a problem with that, why should you? Because it is your faith and system of belief. Thats whay.
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1a1Ek-HD0"]Richard Dawkins demonstrates laryngeal nerve of the giraffe - YouTube[/ame]

    Laryngeal nerve of the giraffe. It only needs to be 3 inches, yet its over 15 feet long.

    If there is a designer, it should be fired for poor design.
     
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    Yeah, riigghht.

    His speculation is the same as yours. Or is it the other way around?

    How does he know how long it SHOULD be. Is he the Laryngeal nerve guru? Rediculous.
     
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    I'm honestly curious what you believe.

    Do you believe in DNA? Do you believe in mutations? If so, I don't know what we're debating about. If not, what do you believe in? :)
     
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    For skeptics of evolution/believers of creationism,

    If you want to have a remote basis for your arguments, utilize George Berkeley's A Treatise Concerning the Principles of Human Knowledge. At least you will be able to utilize non-religous, comprehensive analysis of human nature to refute evolutionary arguments. Better yet, use John Polkinghorne's literature. Then you will get a scientific/religious hybrid argument on the existence of god/origins of species.
     
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    Again, more BS. But no proof. How typical. :wierdface:
     
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    Watch the video and you would know.

    You do have the intellectual capacity to do so right?
     
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    Believe? A function of faith and a result of being convinced. I like science. But I like real, not speculative or declaritve and especially not beyond question.
     
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    Believe: Accept as true

    Anyway, I see you would rather deflect than answer the question. So you don't think there is such a thing as DNA? Or did God just make little mistakes that changed the characteristics of creatures over millions of years?
     
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    I don't like whirlpools, I avoid them. The use of the video to prove your nonexistent point and to attempt to side track the issue with superfluous exoneration's of some scientific point that you are not making is a waste of time.
     
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    I did answer the question.

    Is ther DNA? Yes.

    Did God make mistakes? No.

    Mutation is always distructive. Never adaptive. And especially never advaning of specie development, its a hypothesis at best.
     
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    You wont watch the video because you do not want any evidence to contradict your god is all.
     
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    Great video on why Evolution is true and why Creationism is crap.
    Its almost an hour long but well worth it.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIBO2FeAvlM"]Why Evolution Is True - Jerry Coyne, Richard Dawkins, AAI 2009 - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Religion? Again with your crap nonsensical.

    Evolution is a fact. You like or not. It is proven. What is not proven and more it has been proven false is the creationism and more that humans and dinosaurs lived together.

    That is proven and reproven.

    Evolution is a fact. Like it or not.

    For example we see constant evolution in virus and in some bacteries, too. And also we can see the evolution much slower in other species.

    Also it is proven that humans have a common ancestor with the primates.

    Do you know what is science and religion? Science is the explanation of the natural events based in the experimentation and observation.

    Religion is just faith.

    In the theory of evolution like in the rest of scientific theories there is not faith. Only observation and experimentation, reason.
     
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    How does a scientist exclaiming that he THINKS a nerve is too lang proof that God does not exist? It doesn't.
     
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    Again, if you would actually watch the video, you could see, that the nerve IS too long. This is just one example of poor designs that you find throughout the world when dealing with living creatures.

    If you are looking for one single to think to 'prove' god doesn't exist, then you are on a fools errand my friend. Its the combination of many things.

    But you would rather :ignore: all of it. So you are free to wallow away in ignorance.
     
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    ^^^^ This post was posted 10 minutes after I posted this video:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIBO2FeAvlM"]Why Evolution Is True - Jerry Coyne, Richard Dawkins, AAI 2009 - YouTube[/ame]

    Which is 48 minutes long. Yet Never left wants to claim I am accepting some premise even thou he couldnt possible have wathced a 48 minute video in 10 minutes.

    Go figure eh?
     
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    Why is it too long? Poor design? Could its percieved extra length not serve some unknown purpose that is benefical to the giraff? I ignore nothing. That God is is evident in all creation. It is not I who seeks a thing to prove God is or is not, it is you. I know because I am convinced, and one element of that proof is your denial and hatred.
     
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    I have read parts of his book, same material. You posted that because you have the same opinion, not because it actually proves anything. He engages in agreed speech, not provable speech.
     
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    I see we flunked biology and statistics too.

    Unfortunately for us, bacteria mutate incredibly quickly to overcome the drugs we use :(

    Humans? There is some evidence I believe that we are mutating slightly too.


    http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=how-fast-are-humans-mutating-2009-08-27
     
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    Again if you watch the video:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1a1Ek-HD0"]Richard Dawkins demonstrates laryngeal nerve of the giraffe - YouTube[/ame]

    Which is 4 minutes, it would explain it all to you.

    Instead, you would rather make post after post questioning the video. It takes longer to quesiton the video than it does to watch.

    It just shows you are close-minded and unwilling to learn.
     
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    Until you actually WATCH the video, how do you know? You dont. Just more assumptions on your part.
     
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    Actually, I got A's in both, because I answered the way they wanted, not because I agree, but because I wanted the good grade. Off line I piised the proffessor of with my questions and doubt. That is adaptation, not eveolution. Two entirely different things.
     
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    I assume I will be unconvinced that his postulations are valid and that his undeterable intellect will render my being convined useless. A used car salesman is skilled at selling a pile of junk as reliable transportation. Buyer beware!
     

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