US burns Afghan Qu'rans.

"goy" means "nation" in Hebrew, the meaning is a diffrent nation than Israel, not somthing sinister

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goy

And those "quotes" from the Talmod are a lie, the bounch in your hate-books are a twisted translation from other books than the Talmod itself,

 

Notice how you didnt contradict a thing I said. Soooo just what do you think is bull(*)(*)(*)(*)?

 

Highlander, respectfully, tell that to our Muslim friends, not me!
I'm not the one who tells their children that a book that says that Christians and Jews are "the sons of apes and pigs" is the best book of all time, and will kill/riot when someone accidentally burns it. I'm just a loving Secular Humanist.

You do realize that most religions are bigoted, right?

 

I have no idea, but a job for the religious scholars.

 

You wish a logical reply to your dogma?

Perhaps you would like to talk like an idiot......I find myself at a lost to understand your bigotry and ignorance to the suffering of men women and children by your armed forces. Rape genocide assassinations and poof....nothing...no interest of morality, truth, duty, honour or consideration of the human condition!

They say ignorance is bliss....you should be in absolute heaven!

I don't want to waste my time!

Highlander

 

My point was that religion causes people to kill...the Crusades, The Spanish Inquisition, Jihad, witch burnings, Bosnia, 9/11, Palestinian 72-virgin-seeking suicide murderers, the atrocities committed by the "chosen people" of the Jewish state, some argue fundamentalist Christian GW Bush's invasion of Iraq, the Tamil Tigers (Buddhists?) were the original modern day suicide bombers, etc.
Modern day Secular Humanism?...hmmmmmm, not so much.

The true path is clear, folks.

 

Christians haven't done that stuff much since the reformation, (when they modernized), started usin' Capitalism n' raised their societies outta the backward feudal systems dominated by the Roman Catholic church.

Islam has never modernized, and if it did; it would be much bloodier then the reformation was, and that was real bloody....

 

I'm not sure. Unfortunately, complacency is easy to fall into until you reach utter desperation.

Granted, the same applies to the EU.

The banks that manipulate our system manipulate yours as well.

AIPAC's power is relatively little compared to Wall Street's. Ultimately, banks have more power than any other special interest.

I realize it probably looks like AIPAC is running the show, but that's only because they are one of the bigger players in our foreign policy. Yet, even the military industrial complex is dependent on the interests that control money itself.

I suppose it can't be that different from Scots that lobby for a superficial independence from the UK while still aiming to join the EU as a separate entity. You have your masters just like we do.

I guess you missed the part about them killing apostates (or in the case of Iran, homosexuals). But I guess I shouldn't bother mentioning these things anymore to you, since the entire time you've posted here, you've made it clear that your sole intention is to blame America for anything and everything.

Oh really? Ever heard of the Janjaweed?

I'd rather simply read your posts.

 

Hmmm I was sure it was Christians that carried out the extermination against millions of Jews and gypsies of WW2...wasn't it Christians that carried out the genocidal slaughter of thousands of Muslims in Bosnia 20 years ago...and weren't those protestant and catholic Christians killing each other in N Ireland not so many years ago?

naa I must be mistaken no way a history expert like yourself would ever be wrong, capitalistic Christians societies are incapable of such horrors...

 

Touche.....!

Perhaps I let my passions run away with the words! But at least I have passion and wish to change the status quo!

I can face with my nation the difficulties we face together!

AIPAC owns the American political system.....and Wall Street!

Why else did building seven fall down? Was there not to be a government report on political corruption and endemic financial corruption the very same day as 9/11?
Funny that hey.......three buildings just fell down! One not even hit! Must of been the fairy goblins!
One thing for certain.....it wasn't the truth fairy!

As for the banks....King John actually castrated the banker after attempting to do the same thing in past history....perhaps it might be a good thing to do the same again!
Even some attempt to holding those accountable for corrupt practices would be a start....but hasn't Obama given the executives of Goldman Sachs political positions in his Administration?
So its more than obvious to the lay man that nothing now will change in America without some sort of revolution! Hence the need for "fema" camps!

You cannot vote for anyone other than they're chosen candidates, The media and corrupt party officials won't even give your the truth regarding caucasus voting patterns! Sorry....to all intents and purposes your a kipper!

Whilst we in Scotland....don't resort to violence and have approached democratically the problems we face! But then.....we have balls! More importantly leaders that will look after the interests of the nation rather than a few vested interests....but that's democracy for you!

Regards
Highlander

 

Nope, Hitler was a godless athiest.

Nope, pure Commie kool aid by the Leftist media. I see yer a big time cornsumer.... burp...

Yes they were.

Yuppers, n' ya drink way tooo much Commie kool aid.... burp...

I'm not wrong: Einstein.

Never said that.

 

Attributing the above quotes to me is dumb. Because I didn't post them. An apology is expected.

 

Building 7 was damaged by the collapse of the other two buildings, and it had partially caught fire.

It was determined that the safest course of action was to destroy that building to put out the fire and remove the possibility of a later collapse of the building.

There's no question that Goldman Sachs owns us, and yes, maybe it will come to castrating them. I wouldn't be against that.

No argument here. Still, you could say the same for most systems.

You're pawns just like the rest of us. The only difference is that you have a smaller pool of money and power to work with. You still have an elite ruling class with special interests that dominate the system.

If Scotland had a population and economy size closer to our own and also had a military our size, you'd be pushing your weight around too.

The U.K. as a whole already has plenty of interventionist activity, mostly alongside us.

 

Id say they returned to the doctrine of the bible and away from the doctrine of the Catholic Church. Before the protestant refromation, people were illiterate and bibles were written in Latin. Christian doctrine was whatever the clergy told them was doctrine. Printing press, widespread translation and publication of the bible, The spread of literacy and you get Thomas Paines "Common Sense", using biblical doctrine to demonstrate the illigitimacy of the divine rule of monarchs.

Unfortunately, there is also a Muslim reformation occuring. Reforming Islam to return it to the doctrine of the Koran and hadiths and away from innovations not of the doctrine. A return of theIslamic Caliphate. Islamic government applying Islamic doctrine as law.

 

Exactly. Whoever wrote those quotes was quite unhinged, it would appear. But they do look kinda familiar....

 

There is a big difference between violence by christians and violence according to Christian doctrine. David Koresh fired upon federal agents seeking to serve a warrant, but that had nothing to do with Christian doctrine. You cant find any support for the crusades or the inquisitions in the bible. Those actions clearly contradicted doctrine. While Islamic fundamentalist seek to restore the islamic caliphate that ruled for 1300 years of Islams 1380 years of history

 

Its not known who fired first in the Waco seige. Most reports lean toward the ATF firing first, either an ATF agent accidentally discharged his firearm, or the first shots were from ATF agents sent in to kill the Branch Davidian's dogs.

It wasn't a simple "serve a warrant" either. The "warrant" was served by over 100 agents, many in black combat gear, all heavily armed, and with 3 Army helicopters to provide support. The plan was to storm the compound, smash through the door, and take over.

This despite days before the raid local Sheriff Jack Harwell saying he would just go knock on the door, serve the warrant, talk to Koresh, and bring Koresh out.

 

Are you talking about Moses?

 

We have also to mention the genocides, described in the Old Testament, like the killing of women and children by Moses and his Hebrew-Bandits, who annihilated the native population of Kanaan.

That was probably the first genocide, committed by Monotheists.

 

Ah geez, focus like a laser beam on the irrelevant why dont you. Fine, make that David Koresh believed he was Jesus Christ and the only man on the compound that god wanted having sex with any of the women on the compound. Cant blame that on Christian doctrine.

 

Horrible stories of horrible violence in the past, without any commandment, applicable to the future, or relevance to the present. In contrast to Islam-

Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people
until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah
and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

 

No, focus like a laser beam on incorrect facts. You used it to justify your arguement, which it does not.

 

I am not wrong.
You are mixing culture with religion.

How many Muslims marry children of 9?
There is your answer.

I can tell you here in my country which is Muslim country the age a girl can marry is 18. That is the law.

I believe it is 16 in Scotland and even lower in US states. How do you explain that then?

In the United States, by the 1880s, most states set the age of consent at 10-12, and in one state, Delaware, the age of consent was only 7. A New York Times article states that it was still aged 7 in Delaware in 1895.



are we then to assume that Christian europe and the USA are the same as the few Muslims who marry children and as I said before Ayisha was 19 not 9 so we are not including the prophet in this

 

Seems like Christians in US uniforms are dropping bombs in Afghanistan and Iraq and Yemen and all over recently.

Seems the Chrisitans have destroyed Libya very recently where there is total chaos now and militias everywhere, their puppet NTC has no power and no control at all in the now lawless Libya.

 

If you are going to quote the Quran then you should stop deceiving readers by your methods.

Quote the quote in context of the chapter and quote the verses before and after so that the reader knows what is being said.
You and your kind always quote one verse out of context. Not very honest is it!