Zero Evidence that 9/11 Was an Inside Job

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  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I just read through that site.

    It contains ZERO evidence that 9/11 was an inside job?

    You do realize that the pilot episode of a failed television series is NOT evidence don't you?

    Case closed.
     
  2. suede

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    No, it contains MOUNTAINS of evidence that 9/11 was an inside job!

    Oh, but it would be evidence if the television series was successful? Got it.

    Case re-opened.
     
  3. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Really

    From the site "suede" referred to.

    250+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns' Found in the Mainstream Media



    http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html (Last updated: 08/23/2011)



    PLANNED BEFORE



    1962 - US military drafted 'Operation Northwoods', a plan to commit terror acts in US cities, kill innocent people, hijack airplanes, and plant evidence as a way to trick the public into thinking Cuba committed an unprovoked attack against the US in order to support a war against Cuba. (ABC, Natl Security Archives)

    March '00 - Filming begins for The Lone Gunmen's 'Pilot' episode that depicts a US plot to crash an electronically hijacked Boeing 727 into WTC and blame foreign terrorists to provoke war and increase military's budget (KC Star), March '01 - 'Pilot' episode airs on FOX TV, 6 months before attacks (TV Guide), Co-producers were relieved to hear 9/11 plot pre-dated their show. (io9.com)


    So the "evidence" that 9/11 was "planned before" is

    A) A military "plan" (never put into action in any known way) regarding Cuba.

    THIRTY NINE YEARS BEFORE 9-11.

    Evidence of nothing. Except that someone in the U.S. military in 1962 had way too much time on their hands.

    B) The pilot of an X-Files Spinoff.

    You're kidding right. Hate to mention it to you, but using airliners as weapons against targets on the ground in suicide attacks was NOT a new idea.

    1) A man tried to hijack an airliner in the early 1970s to fly it into the White House to kill President Nixon. Three people including the would be hijacker were shot to death.

    2) Tom Clancy featured a Japanese pilot flying a cargo 747 into the Capitol building during a joint session of Congress in one of his novels in the 1990s.

    3) One of the corporate security chiefs in the WTC Towers Rick Recola IIRC had written reports warning about the possibility of an airplane flying into the Twin Towers as part of a terrorist attack.

    So seeing it on an X-Files spinoff is hardly significant.

    At any rate it is evidence of nothing.
     
  4. Dayton3

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    Next Three.

    1999 - NORAD starts conducting exercises in which airplanes are hijacked and crashed into targets which include the WTC and Pentagon (USA Today), April '01 - NORAD requested a war games event of having a terrorist group hijack a commercial airline and fly it into the Pentagon. (Boston Globe)

    2000 - CNN has employed active duty military psyops personnel. (WorldNetDaily)

    Oct '00 - Pentagon conducts emergency training exercises of a mock passenger plane crash into the Pentagon. (Army

    As stated above, the idea of using an airliner as suicide weapons against ground targets was NOT a new idea.

    It had been attempted against President Nixon in the early 1970s.

    It had appeared in fiction more than once.

    And Rick Rescorla (a man NOT working in govt.) at the WTC was already warning about it. All the way back in 1992 in fact for Morgan Stanley.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rescorla
     
  5. NAB

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    Just one pure random sampling from that d-bag Killtown's website:



    Mysteriously? That sampling just debunked itself. :lol:

    And the countdown begins.
     
  6. Dayton3

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    Next five pieces of "evidence" from the site.

    June '01 - Attorney General John Ashcroft stops flying commercial aircrafts because of a 'threat assessment'. (CBS)

    June '01 - Terrorist act exercise involving an explosion is conducted near the Pentagon to test first team's 'external response.' (Military District of Washington)

    June '01 - NORAD conducts Amalgam Virgo 01, an exercise involving a cruise missile attack scenario in which their presentation manual has a photo of Osama bin Laden on the cover and a picture of an explosion in a skyscraper inside. (Global Security); June '02 - NORAD conducts Amalgam Virgo 02, an exercise involving a domestic commercial airliner-hijacking scenario planned before 9/11. (Defense Link)

    July '01 - Twin 400 ft gas tanks near WTC are imploded by Controlled Demolition Inc. who will later do clean-up at Ground Zero. (Queens Gazette, Phillyblast)

    Aug '01 - Raytheon and US Air Force successfully land pilot-less Boeing 727 using military GPS landing system that enables ground control to take control of hijacked plane. (Der Spiegel, Raytheon)

    Lets see.

    Our of these five pieces of "evidence" we have normal and predictable military exercises and threat assessment.

    And a couple of demolished gas tanks which have nothing to do with the WTC towers except for being on the same island.

    And a program that if it had been available a few years earlier might've allowed 9-11 to be averted.

    Again, none of this is actual "evidence'.

    It is "triva" at best. The same way people try to claim parallels between the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations.
     
  7. Dayton3

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    Next five.

    Aug 30 - Dept of Transportation conducts exercise involving high-jacked plane and a cell phone from it among other aspects of the scenario that one participants describes as being 'very strange' when the actual event happened on 9/11. (MTI)

    Sept '01 - 25,000 British troops ensemble in Oman near Afghanistan for 'Operation Swift Sword' and will help US in attacking OBL. (BBC, Telegraph)

    Sept 3 - Author Salman Rushdie given US air ban. (Ananova)

    Sept 4 - An Israeli owned shipping company moves out of the WTC. (Virginian-Pilot, Real Estate Weekly)

    Sept 5 - US pulls the plug on Muslim websites. (Guardian, BBC)

    The Sept. 01 things about the British appears to be specifying "September, 2001" and not "September 1st".

    Of course the British are going to help the U.S. in Afghanistan. They lost a bunch of people on 9-11 as well.

    And I'll admit I'm lost on Sept. 3rd. What does Salman Rushdie have to do with any of this?
     
  8. Dayton3

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    Next five.

    Sept 7 - Jeb Bush puts the Florida National Guard on alert (WorldNetDaily, MyFlorida.com), Sept 10-11 - President Bush is in FL, state that controversially handed him 2000 presidency (Telegraph), 9/11 - Jeb Bush declares state of emergency in FL immediately after 2nd tower fell (WorldNetDaily), At least 15 of the 19 hijackers have Florida ties. (Augusta Chronicle)

    Sept 8 - Marine Aviation group moves further away from where explosion at the Pentagon will happen. (Leatherneck)

    Sept 8 - Mock drill at Buffalo Niagara Airport simulated terrorists blowing up an aircraft containing 82 passengers and some of the participants will help at Ground Zero after 9/11. (Univ Buffalo, Highland Hose Volunteer Fire)

    Sept 10 - FEMA rescuer Tom Kenney says he was deployed to NYC late Monday night before going into action Tuesday morning, the day of the attacks. (CBS video)

    Of course JEB Bush puts the Florida national guard on alert. His brother and the president who was presumably a target of the hijackers is visiting his state. Not evidence of anything.

    The Sept. 8th, 9th, 10th claims I have no evidence to support the truth of them. At any rate the Marine Aviation Group thing could be part of a regular rotation.

    And I'm certain people from all over New York were deployed to NYC after the 9-11 attacks.
     
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    The way I understand it is PilotsFor911Truth created the animation based on interpretation of the FDR data.

    At any rate, I found some additional analysis of the FDR data. It appears that the analysis done by PilotsFor911Truth may not have been that accurate after all.

    Rather than give my own interpretation, I will merely provide the link to the information.

    http://www.oredigger61.org/?p=3190

    The majority of this work was done in 2009 yet the latest item on the PilotsFor911Truth page regarding the FGR data is 2006. One would think if they were in search of the truth they would have addressed this additional analysis.
     
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    Oops . . . my bad. I guess the NTSB did create the animation.
     
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    New 9/11 news. Definitely part of the cover-up.

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  12. Polar Bear

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    Here is your evidence:

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    I read over the site you linked but haven't clicked on everything you can from there. Just from that first page, it seems like this video from Pilots For 9/11 Truth addresses the same point.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyEAxh5r5y0"]9/11 Pentagon - Flight AA77 NTSB FDR Data Clarifications - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    I missed that. Thanks for posting.

    They mention in that video that the data stopped recording. The info in thel link I posted doesn't say that the data stopped recording, it says the final data points weren't available because they weren't extracted properly.

    Plus there appears to be an incorrect earler analysis of the FDR data due to the following . . .

    Here is the link for the main info I'm referring to.

    http://bluecollarrepublican.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/radar-and-ntsb-time-normalization.pdf

    On page 17 it talks about the last 6 seconds of data aren't missing, they just weren't recorded as a full frame and initially weren't extracted into the CSV properly.

    That does not seem to be addressed in the PF911T video.
     
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    Keep up the good work comrade. It seems to be effective.

    Thanks for the "official" weather report and the insult.
     
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    9/11 is like JFK's assassination in one way for sure. We won't know the truth until 40 or 50 years has passed after it's been declassified. Hopefully though, society as we know it, will have passed on due to heavenly intervention.
     
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    Indeed. that's on point. which is why they say Bin Laden conducted everything from a cave and used all the Saudi pawns as scapegoats. It's imperative that the 911 lie keeps going or else the Bush family will be have prison walls in their future and that's nbot a good thing at the age of 65+.
     
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    The mere fact he was killed shortly after his so called killing of JFK INSIDE A DALLAS JAILHOUSE, no less, is proof enough that he was silenced so he wouldn't tell his side of the story. Because How on earth does Jack Ruby get inside a jailhouse with metal detectors with a gun to kill LHO??? and WHY is the officer carrying the murder rifle WITH NO DUST GLOVES ON????? contaminating the evidence!!!! SEE for yourself

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xU7Lhd7Wwo"]Lee Harvey Oswald Assassination - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Zapruder was on the news immediately after the shooting discussing how the front right of Kennedy's head opened up. Which is consistent with his video. Which is consistent with Kennedy being shot from behind.

    100% false. If they're from credible experts, they carry alot more weight than an internet video or blog.

    I don't care what somebody says that the doctors saw. You're talking about heresay. It's second hand information, which wouldn't work in a court of law.
    You're continuously ignoring the one piece of evidence that is incapable of lying: the Zapruder film. Probably becuase it contradicts your viewpoint. Only an irrational person would ignore indisputable video evidence.
     
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    That is not proof, it's speculation. Speculation is not proof.

    Prove that the Dallas Police Station had metal detectors.
    Prove that the Jack Ruby passed through a metal detector before going into the garage of the police station.

    What evidence was there to be contaimated? They already knew it was his rifle.
     
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    I was hoping they would just die off from overwhelming ignornace.
     
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    You do realize that wearing gloves to protect evidence was not a standard practice in the 1960's, don't you?
     
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    Who would want him dead so fast and with such haste then? LHO had no enemies besides the Government. and the news reports never said why jack Ruby shot him either. and whatever happend to jack ruby after he shot Oswald in cold blood on camera for the nation to see? do you know?



    In 1881, Alexander Graham Bell invented a crude metal detector to hunt for the slug that mortally wounded President James Garfield. Bell's metal detector used electromagnetic induction.

    So by all accounts, Police stations have had metal detectors for quite a while. All while you were sleeping.



    It seems you have no clue about evidence gathering either. by him touching the rifle with his bare-hands, that rifle is now contaminated and could not be used in a murder trial, if LHO had one.

    So many bumbled bonehead mistakes by the Governement keeps coming to light.
     
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    Well, That explains a lot of railroaded prisoners then.
     
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