Medical Marijuana

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  1. Anikdote

    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, I found this more true than funny

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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    prohibition is the gateway to criminal activity

    the abuse is there legal or not, just one makes criminals of those that did not abuse
     
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    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    1% of the worlds population 25% of the worlds prison population almost exclusively in private prisons, it's modern day slavery, turning non-violent drug users into harden criminals.
     
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    All I got out of that was, "Wah wah wah, rich people have more than me. It's not fair."

    Look, I'm all for pot legalization, but it has nothing to do with the self-delusion of any kind of medical benefit. "Medicinal marijuana" is a backward rationalization people use to justify getting high. Every argument that's been used to try to pass it off as being medically helpful has been absurdly flimsy. Why can't people just be honest about the fact that they want to get baked? Honesty goes a lot further than bull(*)(*)(*)(*). At least in terms of connecting people with your cause.
     
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    yep, you take a nice family drinking wine with dinner, arrest them for nothing more then drinking wine with dinner, give them a criminal record, it's the gateway to crime for many, prohibition has never worked
     
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    Leave it to a conservative to try an strawman medical marijuana into a class warfare issue. :roll:

    You think it wouldn't help chemotherapy and radiation therapy patients gain a greater appetite? I mean, some poosible medical benefits are so obvious, it's unbelievable anyone would question them. Now I agree the conditions for approvable ought to be a tighter than what we see in California, where it seems you can get pot for a strap on your elbow. I like how Colorado has taken huge steps to regulate growers (almost regulating them out of business, from what I've heard), and I also like how New Jersey is being extremely careful about the conditions which qualify a patient for approval of medical marijuana, and is limited the number of doctors who can prescribe it to just over a hundred and limiting the number of growers/dispensaries to just six.

    Either way, as a cancer patient with a four surgery, 1 chemotherapy, and soon to be 3 radiation treatment history over 12 years with chronic sciatic, knee, and lower back pain from it, I'm pretty confident I can get approval once the NJ medical marijuana system is up and running.
     
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    Where's the opium/opiate version?
     
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    My grandmother had breast cancer, between chemo and the other medications, marijuana was the only medication that helped with her appetite and constant pain.

    It should be legal for recreational use, but the fact that it also has medical benefits is just icing on the cake. Fortunately for you, you've likely never had to watch someone suffer through cancer, I hope you never do.
     
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    Opiates can't be used "as-is". Refinement is still needed to produce the recreational drugs or the medical drugs.

    The same isn't true for marijuana, it's a plant that grows straight from the ground and is safe and can be consumed as-is.
     
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    So legality should be based on how easy a drug is to produce from the raw materials?

    I don't see how you can use the legality of medical marijuana (when correctly proscribed by a medical professional) as a reason for legalisation of recreational marijuana that wouldn't also apply to a whole load of other medical drugs.

    Please note that I'm not necessarily me saying recreational marijuana should remain illegal, just that this comic doesn't actually make a very good argument when you think about it.
     
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    I am completely mystified by conservatives. "We Want Less Government!!!", they scream, while at the same time, they want to tell you who you can marry, tell women what they can do with their bodies, and tell people what they can or cannot put into their bodies.

    It seems like they are just fine with government intervention as long as that intervention aligns with their narrow views.
     
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    this alone is enough evidence that the war on drugs is not the war on drugs in the slightest. how can pot itself be schedule I, and therefore not qualify as medicine, but the active compound which creates the bulk of pot's mental effects, THC, be schedule III and prescriped to people?
     
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    because it's not simply a matter of people getting high. i agree that legalizing medical marijuana is partially a front to outright legalization, but the fact is it has legitimate medical use. small doses ward off depression and ADHD in some people, it's an effective analgesic, it reduces nausea, and some people use it as a sleep aid. that qualifies it as medicine
     
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    The proscribed drugs have a controlled known dosage and are specifically tested for desired effect, negative side effects and general safety. Whatever is in the baggie you bought off the bloke down the street isn't.
     
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    pot doesn't have to come from some bloke down the street, so i don't understand how that matters. either it has medical value or it doesn't.
     
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    When it's legal it doesn't come from "some bloke down the street" it comes from a business with a reputation and quality controls.
     
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    You're right; conservatives don't want less government. they want more government is different places than democrats.

    I see it as democrats want a small social government and a big fiscal government, while republicans want a small fiscal government and a big social government.

    The whole "No Big Government" rhetoric is the biggest farce ever. I'm amazed it took so long for people to call them out on it, though I've noticed some recent counter-arguments within the media, along the same line as yours.
     
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    There are components of marijuana which can have medical benefits but that doesn't make smoking the dried leaf the right way to achieve them. There are all sorts of plants, minerals and the like which contain medically beneficial components but we don't just consume them raw and unprocessed. The idea that the processing, testing and management of these things in to a proper form of treatment is irrelevant and requiring proscription by a qualified medical professional are irrelevant is ridiculous.

    Anyway, this seems to be an argument for recreational use rather than medical use which makes the whole thing rather irrelevant. The benefits of invasive surgery don't make self harm a legitimate pastime.
     
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    Name one individual in a US prison who's there solely because he/she used marijuana.
     
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    If making alchool ilegal in the 1920's worked so well why wouldnt the same work with drugs...
     
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    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/man-sent-to-jail-for-growing-two-marijuana-plants

    Growing it for consumption by his wife who had breast cancer.

    There's also similar stories of MS patients growing plants for person consumption sentenced to jail terms longer than the average murder conviction in California.

    Jail time has decreased for small offenders, but distribution is still a non-violent offense and wouldn't be a crime at all if we'd drop the foolish position of prohibition, it's an obvious and abject failure.
     
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    Who is gonna support ObamaCare once tax payers are forced to fund the pot addiction of the left handed????​
     
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    depends. have you done research that projected what the costs of legalization would be compared to the current situation?
     
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    Which would make sense, but it does have medical benefits.

    Oh snap.
     

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