Independence for Scotland

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  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    The UK warheads are US- designed and carried on US-leased missiles . I have no doubts whatsoever that the US maintains full control over any launches and that really knocks your suggestion that there are no ' US weapons ' in Scotland into a cocked hat.
     
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    The warheads are British made as I said.

    The American government has no control over them as I said. Even the British government doesn't have any actual control. The only person who has control over those missiles is the captain of the submarine deep below the sea. They need no codes to fire them, they rely on no satellites to guide them. Should Britain come under nuclear attack then the captain of the submarine will take an envelope out of a safe which will contain orders written by the Prime Minister on what to do next. The co-ordinates of the destination will be entered by hand on the missile itself using a standard allen key. The missile will be armed using two keys held by two different people and the missile will be launched and there isn't a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed thing America could do about it except shoot it down.
     
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    I don't believe it. Washington didn't enter into an assistance agreement with the UK in order for there to be any risk whatsoever of its own design warheads- transported by its own leased missiles- falling on the US of AIPAC. Yours sounds like a John Bull story.

    As for the fate of the world being left to two independent nutters under water someplace...................well. Still, you've provided a frightening picture which Scotland would do well to disassociate itself from.
     
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    America didn't design those warheads, Britain designed them. After the war America refused to share nuclear technology with Britain so Britain went ahead on their own and built their own hydrogen bomb which was better than anything the Americans had. Only then did America start co-operating with Britain, we gave them plans for our bombs and they gave us plans for their warheads which we modified to suit our requirements.

    I wouldn't worry too much about the sailors on the submarines, they aren't nutters and they do as they are told. I'd be more worried about a rogue Prime Minister giving the orders, senior politicians tend to be psychopaths. Fortunately the MoD has built in safeguards against such an occurrence.
     
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    moon Well-Known Member

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    OK, modified US of AIPAC designed warheads on US of AIPAC-leased missiles .
    Yes, I do worry. Anybody crazy enough to spend his life underwater with a couple of hundred crazies is crazy.
     
  6. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I assume that the nits on here are Americans, or at least Martians pretending to be such. Which are you?
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you actually know folk who believe and spout that drivel! WOW
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is the UK equivalent of penis envy...
     
  9. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, I suppose you don't. That is your trouble, kid - you need help growing up. It must get tedious, beating that hollow chest of yours!
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So far the chest beating has all come from you, which is an amusing conceit. The fellow from the dying nation.
     
  11. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I shall come back and haunt you, doubtless. Lay off the rotgut, for goodness sake! :)
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need to become much more colorful in your dismissals as the silly old ones you favor are simply sad...Here is a good one from when your nation was great

    • You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!
    o Address to the Rump Parliament (20 April 1653)
     
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    I love Scotland but would England even miss that tiny piece of real estate?????:!:
     
  14. highlander

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    Ya ID 10 t..... what family silver.....its already been stolen!

    Oil yards, the Silver bond, BT, Hydro, Steel, Shipping, Trains, Buses, NHS ... I could go on and on!
    Even now ya deceive only yourself!

    But hopefully ..... at some stage you might get the opportunity of serving your degenerates in some foreign field that forever more we might be able to call England!

    Highlander
     
  15. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My nation is far too small to be mixed up in these banana-measurings, child. My family have always opposed colonialism, too: look what it did to America!
     
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    When did the Welsh nation ever say anything like that? Or do you mean the English Parliament?
     
  17. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well. Oliver Cromwell's proper family name was Williams, and they came from somewhere near Cardiff as I recollect, though they were unfortunately related to the Stuarts, through an illegitimacy, I believe.
     
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    Cromwell's ancestor, Thomas Cromwell was a charlatan and a precursor of the devil the "Lord Protector" would become.
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Leaving aside your (dubious) opinion, Thomas Cromwell was no ancestor of the Lord Protector. The families were related, and Oliver's family took the name out of respect.
     
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    Sentimentally , - Yes, but if that's what they want .:wtf:

    But according to most people south of the border , including Scotsmen + many more of scottish descent , its seem the break -partitian will have to be total - no half -independence - with SCots still enjoying those benefits - i.e. monetary -(using British currency etc) and not paying for whatever benefits the union has brought them. They'll only realize it , once its no longer available.

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    Thats true - (wink) Thomas was Oliver's great-great-great-uncle .


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    Made us great?
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There has not been a welsh nation in more time than most nations have been...What there are are welsh people...and not a lot of them.
     
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    Merely an interested observer, wanting to learn more about the topic.

    And what have I learned? Everything on this forum comes back to the Jews.

    And hatred of Americans to a lessor degree, but by far, even a thread about Scottish Independence will eventually wind it's way back to the Jews.

    I would think it would be so difficult to be an anti-Semite. It seems if you are one, you don't have much room in your head for anything else.
     
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    He was related through Thomas Cromwell's sister and I am well aware of their Welsh heritage. Thomas Cromwell was a charlatan who manipulated his way from a marginal origin to the privy council. He was unfit for such power.
     

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