Rush - Media ignoring Sheriff Joe death threat by obama fan

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  1. TheLastBoyScout

    TheLastBoyScout New Member

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    The man is a county sheriff. There are over 3000 counties across the 50 states of the U.S.


    Why would news about a county sheriff be a national news story?
     
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  3. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Does this actually mean anything?


    There are 3009 counties in America (and 64 parishes) and every county has a sheriff. That you think that I would think that a sad three or four isolated examples means that all 3,009 sheriffs live with death threats "all the time" says so much about you.


    Oh...you want me to provide you with comments about news that has not happened? :no:
    How absurd. How Wong.

    Well I admit it takes an enormous set of ballz to lie out your ass ("sheriffs receive death threats all the time") and then turn around and accuse me of the same. But how else can you remove the stink of dishonesty from your own argument?

    I'll tell you what. I live in Napa county, California. Why not Google up ALL the death threats made against the Napa County sheriff (who is a high school classmate of mine, by the way). Let's see who is making things up, though I've already proven it's you.
    You walked out on this limb yourself. Now it's time for you to start sawing through it and please don't run away again.
     
  4. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Why do leftists keep making this nonsense argument? The fact is that due to Arpaio's notorious policies, and birther stance, he is a national figure.
    Why was sheriff Buford Pusser so famous that he became the subject of a big Hollywood movie? After all...there are so many county sheriffs out there...right? :no:
     
  5. WongKimArk

    WongKimArk Banned

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    Yes. It does.

    Like I said... your inability to reason from evidence is well established. As is your uncontrolled compulsion to move the goal posts every time you are caught with your rhetorical pants down. If I posted another four, and another four, and another four you would not stop demanding more until I had come up with one example for each of the 3,009 county sheriffs.

    Sorry, I don't play that puerile game. When I became a man I put away childish things.

    Now, even more important than my effortless demonstration that death threats to county sheriffs happen all the time, is that none of them were ever national news. In fact, none of Sheriff Joe's innumerable prior death threats (of which he seems so proud) were national news ether.

    Local sheriff = local news story.

    Not at all. I want you to show us that you are not lying through your teeth and inventing falsehoods that you have no possible way of actually knowing are true. You asserted without qualification that your sheriff, and the sheriffs of all the surrounding counties have never gotten death threats.

    Now, how would anybody possibly know such a thing without all of those sheriffs actually having said so somewhere? It is not possible.

    So, either you can point us to those statements, or you should admit that you just made it up.

    I'll wait.

    Hey. I've backed up my statement. A single example would have been infinitely more evidence than you have provided for your claims at this point. I gave you what? Four?

    Now it's your turn.

    It's not my job to try and defend your lies. That's entirely your franchise. But look how easy that should be for you. He's your old buddy. Give him a call. Have him publicly make a statement that he has never received a death threat.

    Like I said.... I'll wait.
     
  6. WongKimArk

    WongKimArk Banned

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    Of course I did. I still do.
     
  7. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    I don't see it.


    At least 3,009 county sheriffs in America today and you think three examples form an overwhelming pattern that extend to all of them? :roll: This is beneath my dignity to even discuss. You have failed miserably. Gee, what do they call it when someone makes a claim they cannot possibly defend? Oh...right. A lie.

    Oh right....you could come up with example after example (my Google search says otherwise, by the way). You just don't feel like it.

    Not childish infantile claims, apparently. You have failed miserably to prove your claim. That much is demonstrably true.

    Shrug* None of them involved a national figure like Sheriff Joe Arpaio.


    Not to my knowledge. You can prove otherwise if you wish, but in this little county I would be surprised if such a thing were not big news. But I suppose we can infer (from your say so entirely) that he gets death threats as a monotonous daily matter of fact.

    Again, why would someone comment on something that has never happened? I can't point to a statement from the office of the sheriff about the space aliens that landed on main st. either. But I imagine that's due more to the fact that it never happened than anything else. I cannot disprove a negative.


    Yeah...please keep waiting. Like until they turn your respirator off. I know you thrill in your childish ways but I cannot give you an example of something that's never happened.
    I gave you the name of my county so I can only assume you failed utterly to turn up any mention of death threats against our sheriff whatsoever.

    If you had any self respect you would pack it in. But you apparently don't.
     
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    Of course you don't.

    No. Because after all, I am not an idiot.

    Ignoring that you are describing a straw man (for what rational purpose, who can tell?) I think that three (or was if four) examples is evidence that my assertion was true. And I know that it is an infinitely larger sample of support for my claim than you have provided for yours. In fact, not only have you run away from providing any support for your claim, you have asked me to do it for you.

    But as I said... I am not an idiot.

    LOL... not even Arpaio, apparently, since none of his previous death threats were considered national news either.

    There you go!!! Now how hard was it to admit that you were just being ignorant?

    I will take that as a full concession that you just made it up.
     
  10. WongKimArk

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    ABC and FOX are not main stream media?

    :shock:

    I'll alert the media.

    Oh... wait...
     
  11. CoolWalker

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    Duh...they aren't "national". They are local. It needs to be on News At Six on all chanels, but will it be? Not on your life. It's isn't in the Leftist-Media to do that.
     
  12. WongKimArk

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    And that magically makes them not mainstream?

    Of course not. A death threat against a county sheriff is not national news.
     
  13. CoolWalker

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    Of course they aren't mainstream. Only people close to those locales "possibly" go there...their unique hits are rather low. Mainstream is major newspapers, ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX AND CNN (can't count MSNBC because they lie more than the others). But then you re simply baiting aren't you. You already knew that. What a goober. And Sheriff Joe is known everywhere.
     
  14. Yosh Shmenge

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    That claim cannot be substantiated either. In fact based on your other claims, it seems a certainty you are.

    You have made an infinitely larger claim, for all intents and purposes. You claim to speak for what happens to 3,009 county sheriffs on a daily basis. I speak from personal knowledge only about one single county.Why shouldn't the burden of proof be much greater for you?

    I thought as a debate commando, you would know about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
    Especially when I've pointed it out over and over. As far as asking you to do "it for me" I am simply asking for proof of what YOU allege.

    For myself, I have no knowledge of death threats against the Napa sheriff and no reasonable belief or expectation that such a thing ever happened. Therefore it's up to you to give evidence of something you insist is true (contrary to all evidence). Your move.


    You continue to prove otherwise.


    None of them involved Barack Obama, peripherally. And as we've seen, the national Pravda media is loathe to put Arpaio in a sympathetic light.


    I've made nothing up. That's sort of the whole point. There is absolutely nothing that would cause me to believe that the sheriff of Napa county has received a single death threat, let alone constant death threats (as you allege). On the other hand, you can find zero evidence of a death threat against the sheriff here yet you insist there has been many of them.
    Geeezzz...desperate much? How can you claim you are not an idiot, given this proof otherwise?
     
  15. ASeriousMan

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    He is honestly only really known on political and right wing websites as well as in AZ of course, the average person has no idea who Arapaio is and when they discover that he is a birther they honestly care even less. The people who care about it and his fans know, why does it need to be broadcasted everywhere when no one honestly cares about the story?
     
  16. WongKimArk

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    By definition, one is "infinitely larger" than your zero. I gave you four.

    I made an affirmative and specific assertion. I have provided evidence that my assertion was true.

    You made an affirmative and specific assertion. You have provided no evidence whatsoever that your assertion was true.

    I have met my burden of proof. You are still running away from yours.

    You are a very confused person.

    You are the only one who has made an argument from ignorance here, not me. You have asserted that "not to your knowledge" means the same thing as "never." Now would be a good time for you to go back and reread your own link.

    ^^^^^ Argument from Ignorance ^^^^^^

    But thanks again for acknowledging that your claim that no such threats have ever happened is simply an admission of your personal ignorance, and has no actual statements from anybody in a position to actually know in support.

    So what? Obama didn't make the threats. Of course we all know that your real complaint is that you are angry that the national media is not complicit in your desire to smear the president. But that's neither here nor there.

    You said Arpaio was a national figure. But we have seen that previous death threats also received no national attention.

    You now compound your original lie with another one. Here were your exact words:

    That is an affirmative and specific assertion of fact. But we have established at this point that you just made this up. It is, in short, a lie invented on the spot with no evidence.

    So go on. Give your buddy a call.

    I'll wait.
     
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    Who is Buford Pusser?

    No. County Sheriffs are county news.......even ones that perform media stunts and aspire to be celebrities.
     
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    I had to look it up myself he's the guy who inspired the movie 'Walking Tall' but his story is a lot more interesting than Arpaio.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buford_Pusser
     
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    Obama and his family receive 30 per day. I doubt they're from Obama fanatics - more like the racists we're becoming so familiar with here.
     
  20. Yosh Shmenge

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    Right. You are pointing out something not in dispute, for some reason.


    NO! Stop! You have not.
    Not even remotely. This (your claim that sheriffs face death threats regularly) is like claiming the notoriously weak hitting Mario Mendoza was a regular Ted Williams by producing a single box score where Mendoza went three for four one game.
    Your two or three impotent examples are even worse than a single game box score. At least for that one game, Mendoza did hit like Ted Williams. That three or four sheriffs did receive one time death threats says nothing about your claim that they are a regular problem all sheriffs must face. You fail!

    That is the low disingenuous bottom on which you feed. The truth never filters down to you, does it.


    Well, there is no way to document a non event, is there. What can I say?

    Oh, really! :roll:


    I can find no evidence of death threats against sheriffs in my county, and neither can you. And I have no personal knowledge of such a thing. Now would be a good time for you to show otherwise...but of course, you can't!


    If you understand what the word peripheral means then what is the point of this comment? It has none (perhaps it is following the theme of all your other comments).

    My real point was to counter your rank dishonesty (which I've done).
    The local Phoenix newspaper is not a national news outlet (though that was the level of media being discussed), and three or four isolated examples do not support the disingenuous claim that sheriffs are subject to death threats "all the time".

    Both are low slimy lies that show a disregard for the reader by insulting his intelligence with such b.s. You ought to grow up and stop lying.


    If you continuously run your failed points by then I must point out once again that Obama was not peripherally involved in other Arpaio death threats. This changes the dynamic considerably.


    Ironic considering your lies.

    You deal daily in lies so I am surprised you don't seem to know what a lie is. If I lied, consciously misstated fact, then you should be able to point out where I lied....right?
    So go ahead and tell me...where did I lie? How am I factually in error?
    Go ahead and tell me....I'll wait. I'll wait until they disconnect your respirator. Or the truth comes out of your face. Whichever comes first.
     
  21. Yosh Shmenge

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    Undoubtedly Pusser is much more interesting and inspiring than Arpaio. But the point, that a sheriff could not possibly be worthy of news of any sort, is just leftist mumbo jumbo b.s. Pusser proves that.
     
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    Is a fictionalized movie "news" in your alternative universe?
     
  23. Yosh Shmenge

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    Oh, changing gears, are we? :oops:
    It must be difficult running an argument on empty.

    The movie was based on Pussers actual life and events. Of course the movie had to come out for people to learn of them, but that Pusser was remarkable enough to merit a movie is proof positive that just being a sheriff is no reason why an individual cannot be news worthy.

    I think once again, in an attempt to somehow get at me, you have tangled yourself up in a web of self generated illogical crud. How sad.
     
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    LOL... you really can't even keep track of your own arguments? :roll:

    YES! Stop! I have.

    You must not know what "regularly" means. It's not a superlative. Look it up.

    It is fascinating that you either cannot count to four, or that you somehow are afraid that four (the real number) is a more compelling number than two or three, so you must avoid it all costs. But even if I had provided only one, it would be an infinitely greater demonstration of evidence than anything we have seen from you to this point.

    Again, the difference between us is this:

    I have made an assertion, and I have backed it up with evidence,

    You have made an assertion, and you are still running away from providing any evidence whatsoever.

    Of course there is. A statement from each of those sheriffs that they have never received a death threat (as you insisted they "never" have) would perfectly document those non-events.

    Absent those statements, we have no other choice but to conclude that you were lying through your teeth.

    Again, it is not my job to defend your lies. That's your franchise.

    But thanks for yet another argument from ignorance. You are on quite the ironic roll.

    So why then did you lie that you did?

    I am tweaking your nose. I am pointing out that you are fooling no one and no one is fooled. Your only real complaint is that you are angry that the media is not complicit in your smear campaign.

    And my argument was that this is not a national media story, so local mainstream media is all the coverage it deserved. And at that level, it got all the coverage it deserved.

    And again... one isolated example would have been all that was necessary to distinguish my position from your lie. I have evidence for my assertion, and you have none.

    Just to pile on, I gave you four.

    Oh Yosh... your dishonest equivocation, squirming and quibbling just gets worse and worse the deeper you dig yourself in. It is not factual error that makes a lie. It is the act of deliberately, willfully and dishonestly making up something out of thin air and pretending it is a statement of fact.

    Your first lie was the assertion that your sheriff and those in all your surrounding counties had "never" received death threats. You have no way of knowing that as you have been so clear in establishing, so it was a lie.

    Your compounding the lie is trying to denying that this was what you claimed in the first place. Of course, you have left a paper trail and linked directly to the post that proves otherwise.

    So again.... here is where we stand:

    I made an assertion and backed it up with evidence.

    You made an assertion and are still running away from providing any evidence.

    Things have not changed in several posts, Yosh. Time to get on the horn with your buddy and ask him whether or not the lie you told is accidentally true. Of course, it would still be a lie... but at least you would demonstrate some integrity by pretending that you cared one way or the other.

    :roll:
     
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    That's local news... Do you hear about "blacks" here in Portland getting death threats for the neighbohooding skinhead communities? I don't hear Rush talking about that...

    Do you see how retarded your post is...? Do you? Want me to explain it to you...? Or can you figure it out on your own...?
     

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