The Next Great Secession

Unlike the south, this time it has the numbers.

It is millions. It has it's own culture, it's own racial identity, it's own purpose.

It is an atheist's worst nightmare, it is strongly socially conservative. It is almost to a man, woman, and child, Roman Catholic.

It is in the process of replacing an aging, dying white population that has been killing it's babies while it has been having it's babies by the tonloads.

America took it's land and it's ancestral home by force of war and it knows it and once it secedes, no Republican war and tax party or no Democratic socialist party or no other power on earth will be able to stop it.

Now the question is:

Will the federal government even dare to try and use military force to stop it?

I don't think so.


In ten years .. Ten years, the first Hispanic independent state will secede from the federal union.

America is imploding with debt and neither political party supports the gold standard and the funny money of the federal reserve which has no support is devaluing to worthless currency. All over the world, new countries are adapting the British parliamentary system and rejecting the failed American system with it's socialist based society. The Chicanos are promoting freedom and independence from the federal power and their greatest weapon now is the same great weapon off all freedom loving people in the world, secession. A new Hispanic independent nation in close alliance with Mexico is a reality that is coming due to America's declining sorry economic condition and the neocons driving the republican party and their lust for political power while they continue to ignore the constitution.

 

Hispanics favor specie money? Who knew?

Is Mexico a valid model?

 

LOL, the OP is hilarious.

 

You have a problem with Catholics? deal with it.

 

What the OP is failing to realize is that the vast majority of 3rd and 4th generation Mexicans are entirely Americanized. America has that effect on people. They are not the first minority to be assimilated.

 

You have a problem with a liberty based society instead of the society you at least colaborate with if not support .. A socialist / liberal based society.


Deal with that.

 

What about other states who will leave the federal union who aren't afilliated with the chicano movement?

 

LOL .. Because of liberals exactly like you .. Who would have 0 power or influance anywhere in America if this country had a constitutional republic and the federal government was the agent of the states, new countries around the world are adapting a British parlimentary form of government and rejecting the american version.

America is imploding in debt and if it doesn't get it's house in order, the Chicano independent state I mentioned will be a reality with others following suit in just several more years from now.

Why shouldn't the Mexicans form their own independent Hispanic nation?
What will be here for them to chose to stay in the union?

 

States do not nor have they ever had power over the federal government since the constitution was adopted. Frankly states rights can go bye bye for all I care. I trust the federal government more than some state legislature.

 

So are we talking about some Red Dawn right wing fantasy of a civil war or what?

 

Good question, I have no clue what this thread is really about? Is the OP talking about states seceeding from the US?

 

If grandma had balls, she'd be grandpa.

The majority dont agree with you, and you are too weak to force them to do what you want. I didnt write the rules, nature did. Thats how it is supposed to work.

And yet the most successful nation in the history of the planet uses our system.

Good luck to them though.

A reality in your dreams maybe, heh heh.

Because they are not Mexican, they are American. Thats what you people dont get. Most Americans do not base their loyalties on skin color. You people are a minority. The people who think like you do are a minority.

That is why there are no politicians in power that think like you. It isn't because of some insidious conspiracy. It is because your ideology is weak and no one wants to adopt it.

 

Referencing religion is inappropriate at best. And being a conservative and republican my entire adult life, I take personal liberty very personally. Believing that a vast number of sates will succeed is lunatic. It will not happen. believing they will attempt to alter the internal structure of the various state governments is something to consider. It is however something that will be addressed at the arrival of each and every incident...take a deep breath and have a dram of some good American bourbon.

 

There are no other states that will leave. Thats all part of your personal delusion. The one state that is closest to leaving is (ironically) Vermont. You didnt even get the general area of the country right.

 

Wow. Now SS is a liberal.

Hey SS! When did you convert?

 

The moment I said something he didnt agree with.

 

Typical.


They come here for cheap wages, and government subsidies, if there are no rich people to hire them or the best government corporate money can buy to assure the subsidies keep flowing, why in the hell would they stay here??? The Canadian invasion would simply continue.

 

Analagous to when the Colonialists imported African slaves and indentured servants from Europe,

politicians in Wash. D.C. and in local gov'ts all over the Union turned a blind eye to the flow of illegals over the past few decades in the hope of having a vast source of cheap labor.

Politicians and powerful business lobbys neither want to stop the flow of illegals, nor give them legal status. They prefer to keep this group of people in limbo. However, the numbers are too great, they can't be deported without great effort. You're going to have to learn to live with your latino laborers as equals. You reap what you sow.

 

Let me ask you something;

Would you be willing to die to prevent any given state from leaving the federal union?

 

In the past few decades? Um..illegal immigration has been a right-wing bullhorn since the 1800's. It wasn't even really regulated until about 1890 and white people have screaming bloody murder first about the Irish, then the Pols, then the Chinese, then the Japanese and finally Mexicans and South American Latino's(and those last since at least the late 1920's).

To the OP. I'm glad you had fun on show-and-tell day and we look forward to next week's project.

 

Would you be willing to die to prevent any given state from leaving the federal union?

 

I'm talking about a movement in the southwest that is relying on the exact same attitude and apathy you are currently expressing to gain enough numbers and enough influance to achieve it's goal .. secession and an indepent Hispanic nation.

The movement's leaders have all expressed their strategy:

It's only a matter of time.

And why should any educated, skilled, foreign national want to reside in America ten years from now? Right now, foreign nationals are attending the finest schools in America and so much so, Americans can't attend them, there's no more room in fact and the foreign nationals are graduating but they're not staying here, they're leaving for greener pastures.

And that's right now.

 

So are we talking about some Red Dawn right wing fantasy of a civil war or what?

 

Nah! Its a Red Dawn left wing fantasy.